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Old 06-21-2015, 11:57 AM  
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Two 1st round picks for Russell Wilson in '16 and '17 or '17 and '18





Do you sign the offer sheet if the Seahawks non-exclusively tag Russell Wilson?

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Old 06-28-2015, 12:15 PM   #1156
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Old 06-28-2015, 12:17 PM   #1157
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I've said this before and I'll say it again: you could put a lot of QB's on that Seattle team (particularly the 2013 team) and they would make the SB.
You've said it before, and you can say it again and again.
You can scream it from rooftops for all I ****ing care.

It's a worthless opinion.

My worthless opinion is that there are only a couple of QBs that would be accomplishing what Wilson has accomplished.
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Old 06-28-2015, 12:24 PM   #1158
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My worthless opinion is that there are only a couple of QBs that would be accomplishing what Wilson has accomplished.
How would Indy do with Wilson?
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Old 06-28-2015, 12:24 PM   #1159
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Isn't Hootie the one ALWAYS bringing up QBR as a measure of how great a QB is?

Wilson's QBR:
2012: 71.75
2013: 58.94
2014: 62.45

Ryan's QBR:
2008: 73.58
2009: 58.5
2010: 70.58
2011: 69.92
2012: 74.84
2013: 61.14
2014: 66.98

Tell me again how Ryan isn't elite if Wilson is?
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Old 06-28-2015, 12:24 PM   #1160
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Dude, come on. Wilson over Ryan? Do you honestly believe that Wilson would have averaged 4,000 yards or had any Super Bowl appearances in Atlanta?

Do you honestly believe that Matt Ryan wouldn't have two Super Bowl appearances in Seattle had he been their QB?

Wilson's a good QB. He's a leader. He's unique. He's like Fran Tarkenton, in that he's a winner when the entire team, running game and defense around him is great.

But he's not a prototypical NFL QB, like the Manning's, Luck, Ryan, Brady and Rodgers. Put any of those guys in Seattle and they appear in the past two Super Bowls, hands down. Put Wilson in Indy, Atlanta, New England or Green Bay and they're lucky to make the playoffs.
Wilson is a 100x better than Tarkenton. Wilson will develop into the franchise QB he is. He doesn't need to be the prototypical QB and he's shown that. He's more than just a scrambler. I would love to have seen him with Matt Ryan's weapons.
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Old 06-28-2015, 12:26 PM   #1161
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It is merely speculation.
Very true.

But it's also true that Russell Wilson isn't the prototypical QB and that if Seattle had a Ryan, Brady, Manning or Rodgers at the helm, their offensive scheme would be different than that of Wilson's.

He's the modern day Fran Tarkenton, with a staunch running game (Chuck Foreman) and fearsome defense (The Purple People Eaters). The difference is that Wilson won a Super Bowl while Tarkenton lost the three in which he appeared.

There's no doubt that Wilson is a very good QB but I'd take Rodgers, Ryan, Brady, Brees and the Manning's before him.
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Old 06-28-2015, 12:29 PM   #1162
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Wilson is a 100x better than Tarkenton. Wilson will develop into the franchise QB he is. He doesn't need to be the prototypical QB and he's shown that. He's more than just a scrambler. I would love to have seen him with Matt Ryan's weapons.
Really? So, Wilson is an automatic Hall of Famer? Wilson will hold every QB record when he retires, just as Tarkenton did?



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Really? So, Wilson is an automatic Hall of Famer? Wilson will hold every QB record when he retires, just as Tarkenton did?



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Old 06-28-2015, 12:31 PM   #1164
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Really? So, Wilson is an automatic Hall of Famer? Wilson will hold every QB record when he retires, just as Tarkenton did?



Really?
When your TD% is approaching Dan Marino's in your first three years, you are pretty special.

I don't know about HOF but this guy is definitely going down as the best Seahawks QB ever.
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Old 06-28-2015, 12:34 PM   #1165
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Very true.

But it's also true that Russell Wilson isn't the prototypical QB and that if Seattle had a Ryan, Brady, Manning or Rodgers at the helm, their offensive scheme would be different than that of Wilson's.

He's the modern day Fran Tarkenton, with a staunch running game (Chuck Foreman) and fearsome defense (The Purple People Eaters). The difference is that Wilson won a Super Bowl while Tarkenton lost the three in which he appeared.

There's no doubt that Wilson is a very good QB but I'd take Rodgers, Ryan, Brady, Brees and the Manning's before him.
I'd take Rodgers and Brady.

We have 17 years of playoff struggles against pressure to see how Manning performs against real pressure.

Brees and Ryan would get killed behind the overrated Seahawk line.

Rodgers is the only QB who's better outside the pocket.

Brady is a master of what I refer to as "pocket mobility"
He is the best at moving within the pocket to avoid pressure and making plays.
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Milkman, Hootie and Claynus all agree about Russell Wilson.

I don't think that's EVER happened before.

All detractors must submit to our combined will.
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When your TD% is approaching Dan Marino's in your first three years, you are pretty special.

I don't know about HOF but this guy is definitely going down as the best Seahawks QB ever.
OMG He has Jim Zorn and Dave Kreig to surpass!
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Wilson sucks.
Cant believe no one took the bait on this.

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Old 06-28-2015, 12:43 PM   #1169
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Milkman, Hootie and Claynus all agree about Russell Wilson.

I don't think that's EVER happened before.

All detractors must submit to our combined will.
We have to assume Milk has suffered some diminished capacity due to age.

When they begin losing talent, we'll see what kind of QB Wilson is.
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Cant believe no one took the bait on this.

Hell I was ready to have some fun.
I was getting to it, but you sunk my battleship with this post.
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