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Old 08-02-2015, 07:24 AM  
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****OFFICIAL Royals at Blue Jays GDT 08/02****
Time to take a catheter and shove it up their Dickey!

Game start: 12:07 central

KC: Volquez (10-5, 3.21)
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:08 AM   #991
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BFIB just can't help themselves.
Royals fans just can't pass on a good ad hominem when their bullshit arguments fall apart.

Keep on telling yourselves that your choir boys are just innocent bystanders. It isn't just Cardinals fans that aren't buying that nonsense.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:08 AM   #992
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Sports fans have double standards and will defend their team right or wrong???

Holy shit, I think you're really onto something here.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:09 AM   #993
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Royals fans just can't pass on a good ad hominem when their bullshit arguments fall apart.

Keep on telling yourselves that your choir boys are just innocent bystanders. It isn't just Cardinals fans that aren't buying that nonsense.
I've made no such arguments. I understand how sports fandom works.

Thanks for the heads up BFIB! You're straightening everyone out in here. We really appreciate it!
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:13 AM   #994
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This is the most Cardinals thing ever. Best fans in baseball! Coming in here making all kinds of generalizations that are completely out of context and acting like they're above it all, when their team is just as likely as anyone to retaliate against someone. What a load of crap.
If you want to scare them off, bring up their (and their leagues) terrible struggle vs the AL. They'll scurry like wharf rats the second they hear it.
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Old 08-04-2015, 11:14 AM   #995
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If you want to scare them off, bring up their (and their leagues) terrible struggle vs the AL. They'll scurry like wharf rats the second they hear it.
That's old hat. Everyone knows the JV will struggle against the Varsity.
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I'm just talking about the situation and the umpire's actions. Anyone looking back in hindsight and calling shenanigans on Wolf is being silly.

I don't have a problem with Donaldson being fired up and looking at the umpire or even complaining. I do think he went too far with the show he put on (walking to the backstop, continuing to jaw at the ump, etc). He's lucky he didn't get run for that (and Wolf, to his credit, gave him some significant rope, likely because of the situation and Wolf's awareness).

What slider are you referring to with Cain? The Kazmir pitch (because that wasn't a slider).

The Royals have a rep at this point. Things had been quiet for a few months, prior to this series, so I think they've settled down a little bit, but it's still a factor and still something the team needs to be careful about moving forward. Can't let it become a negative factor in the team's performance.
I wouldn't have had an issue at all with Wolf tossing Donaldson - that doesn't have a damn thing to do with yet another incident of the Royals leaving the dugout and being red asses. They used Donaldson's histrionics to deflect attention and excuse themselves on twitter afterward but then when Ventura goes off calling a 6-time All Star and legitimate stud like Bautista a 'nobody', their justifications start to ring a little hollow, do they not?

Call it youth or swagger or whatever, but it can't be ignored. Royals fans call it an edge, most others....do not. And for Royals fans to have embraced that black hat role then turn around and tell someone like Donaldson who had legitimate reasons to be pissed to just nut it up and walk to first is absolutely hypocritical.
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The Royals have been hit by pitches 57 times this season. That's second in MLB. Our pitchers have hit 29 batters. That's 23rd.

Toronto has been hit by 31 pitches. That's 14th in MLB. They've hit 44 hitters. That's 3rd in MLB.

In the series four Royals and three Blue Jays were hit by pitches. Please keep these facts in mind as you invent reasons why the Royals are a bunch of thugs and whatnot.
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Ventura's caught a lot of shit, and deservedly so, from Royals fans over his behavior.
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That's old hat. Everyone knows the JV will struggle against the Varsity.
Yeah, that's definitely a card a team with a 2-4 record against the Cards should play...
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That's old hat. Everyone knows the JV will struggle against the Varsity.
But just watch how they squeal when you slap them with the data. They shit out, completely lose their minds.
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I wouldn't have had an issue at all with Wolf tossing Donaldson - that doesn't have a damn thing to do with yet another incident of the Royals leaving the dugout and being red asses. They used Donaldson's histrionics to deflect attention and excuse themselves on twitter afterward but then when Ventura goes off calling a 6-time All Star and legitimate stud like Bautista a 'nobody', their justifications start to ring a little hollow, do they not?

Call it youth or swagger or whatever, but it can't be ignored. Royals fans call it an edge, most others....do not. And for Royals fans to have embraced that black hat role then turn around and tell someone like Donaldson who had legitimate reasons to be pissed to just nut it up and walk to first is absolutely hypocritical.

You keep coming back to Ventura as your best example of the Royals being "red asses". I have seen very little defense of Ventura. Most Royals fans wanted him to be sent down to AAA. Sure there's some "he's a kid" talk, but even that is usually in the context of how he needs to grow up and figure it out.

Ventura aside, this team started the year getting hit a LOT and were getting little support from the umps. They were smeared in the media for dust ups with the A's and the White Sox in which they were in no way the instigators. Of course they're a little indignant about teams throwing at them. I still haven't seen any Royal make as big an ass out of himself as Donaldson did on Sunday.
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But just watch how they squeal when you slap them with the data. They shit out, completely lose their minds.
I wish I could understand the intricacies of NL baseball - I really do. It seems so advanced. Alas, I am a Royals fan, so I can only hope one of the BFIB will help me out here. They're always so, so very helpful.
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You keep coming back to Ventura as your best example of the Royals being "red asses". I have seen very little defense of Ventura. Most Royals fans wanted him to be sent down to AAA. Sure there's some "he's a kid" talk, but even that is usually in the context of how he needs to grow up and figure it out.

Ventura aside, this team started the year getting hit a LOT and were getting little support from the umps. They were smeared in the media for dust ups with the A's and the White Sox in which they were in no way the instigators. Of course they're a little indignant about teams throwing at them. I still haven't seen any Royal make as big an ass out of himself as Donaldson did on Sunday.
They were absolutely the instigators in the A's and Sox drama but it's just not worth hashing that out again. At some point I'll have to convince you all that Lawrie wasn't doing a flying jumpkick when his cleat hit Escobar mid-calf but whatever.

Cain has been in the middle of plenty of temper tantrums this year. And really, gonna just forget about Herrera's garbage in the 'make an ass of himself' derby? Or are you gonna justify that one as well? Probably the latter.

Again - just brick after brick after brick. Any singular incident in a vacuum isn't much but the Royals are in the middle of more of them than any team in baseball.
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But just watch how they squeal when you slap them with the data. They shit out, completely lose their minds.
God I'm glad you're on their side.
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Yeah, that's definitely a card a team with a 2-4 record against the Cards should play...
11-6 on the year vs. the JV league.
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