Chiefs NFL source: Chiefs facing "abyss" - Page 10

Hammock Parties · 10-13-2015, 08:24 AM

http://www.kctv5.com/story/30243233/...s-facing-abyss

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KANSAS CITY, MO (KCTV) -

As bad as the first five weeks have been for the Chiefs, it could get a lot worse.

That is the verdict of one long-time NFL executive.

"I don't have to be there to know how bad it is inside their offices and locker room," he said. "When you lose a game like Sunday's loss to the Bears, there's a real hangover."

That makes sense, KC blew a 17-3 lead against a poor Chicago team to fall to 1-4 on the season. Two of those losses came at home, and they were in games that the Chiefs seemed to have in hand. Offensive mistakes and poor defense fueled the defeats.

But, as bad as that is, it could lead to bigger problems.

"The concern for Andy is that the guys stop buying in," he told KCTV5. "If they stop listening to coaches, or start pointing fingers at each other, this could really get ugly."

The long-time exec has always been a big fan of Chiefs coach Andy Reid, but he said Reid is in a dangerous situation.

"I think the players respect Andy," he said, "But if the owner undermines him in any way, that could change. It could really implode."

Chiefs Chairman Clark Hunt personally selected his head coach and general manager John Dorsey, so it would appear highly unlikely that he would do or say anything to put the leaders of his franchise in a bad light. Even when faced with firing former GMs Carl Peterson and Scott Pioli, Hunt did nothing in advance to put his GMs in a bad position.

The NFL executive told KCTV5 that he is also worried about the Chiefs quarterback.

"Alex Smith has been left 'naked,'" he said, "First, he had no offensive line and now he loses the main component of his running game. Good luck with that."

He said the loss of running back Jamaal Charles will make Reid's game-planning and play calling job a lot harder, and that an already weak Chiefs offense will have an even harder time moving forward.

He also said the problems extend to the defense.

"I think (Chiefs defensive coordinator) Bob Sutton's in trouble." he said. "I really like Bob, but that defense should be better."

The veteran exec has faced these kinds of issues himself, and he says he "feels for those guys." "I hope they get it fixed," he said.

So do the millions of Chiefs fans worldwide.

KC will play at Minnesota this Sunday. A game you can see right here on KCTV5. Kick off's at noon.

Bambi · 10-13-2015, 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Dayze

ground breaking quotes from 'the source'.

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I know right, what a dumb article

Discuss Thrower · 10-13-2015, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

They can make him a June 1st cut and get $1 million in cap space.

According to OTC, an outright cut of Smith in 2016 reduces the cap from $36MM to $29MM versus the $37MM of designating him a June 1 cut.

However, the outright cut of Smith in '16 means KC has $70MM of cap in '17 versus $63MM if he's a June 1 release....

Mile High Mania · 10-13-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

According to OTC, an outright cut of Smith in 2016 reduces the cap from $36MM to $29MM versus the $37MM of designating him a June 1 cut.

However, the outright cut of Smith in '16 means KC has $70MM of cap in '17 versus $63MM if he's a June 1 release....

Clark needs to get Jerry drunk, tell him KC will eat a good portion of the contract and send him to Dallas.

Hammock Parties · 10-13-2015, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

There's a shitload of difference between 'a lot of things need to be fixed, and the QB is one of them' and 'nothing else matters if Alex is QB'

With a better QB right now we are 3-2 and no one cares about any of this bullshit.

Not top 5. Not top 10. Just better. Average. A guy who can throw more than one ****in' TD pass every 18 quarters. Or hit the open man on a ****in' 5 yard slant with the game on the line.

****ing Christ.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-13-2015, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambi

I know right, what a dumb article

You know what else is dumb? A portion of your sig.

Jeremy Maclin is a loser ****?

Hammock Parties · 10-13-2015, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Unfortunately, that light is still over 2 years away.

But it will only get brighter from the days going forth. Especially this April.

Discuss Thrower · 10-13-2015, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Stop, Chiefs

With a better QB right now we are 3-2 and no one cares about any of this bullshit.

Not top 5. Not top 10. Just better. Average. A guy who can throw more than one ****in' TD pass every 18 quarters. Or hit the open man on a ****in' 5 yard slant with the game on the line.

****ing Christ.

Kyle Orton circa 2009-2011.

**ptlyon** · 10-13-2015, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by tooge

My son asked if he could get a Packers hat Sunday. I'm gonna go ahead and get myself one also. Minsky's in Liberty has a nice little Packers following, and I think I'll blow off Chiefs tix next year and spend the money on two trips to GB for Pack games.

I feel so.....refreshing.

See, this is why I don't have kids and don't think I would be a good parent.

If my kid would ask me that I'd start into a 5 minute barrage beginning with "Listen you little **** face, I was born 23 days after SB IV and I've had to live with this ****ing team all of my God dammed life..." And end it with "You'll get nothing and like it!"

Here's to you, positive roll model parental dude 👏

Hammock Parties · 10-13-2015, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If the next QB of this team isn't a highly drafted QB then why even watch?

They're my team. I'll always watch. I love clowns.

Chief Roundup · 10-13-2015, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

If we play like we did Sunday.....then we won't win more than 2-3 games this season.

We'll draft an offensive lineman and be sold that Aaron Murray is the future after Chase leaves. Smith will play next year and we'll somehow pull 8-8 out of our ass. People will clamor that Smith deserves a new contract and more weapons around him.

Since Bray was extended through 2017 he might get a chance too.

Hammock Parties · 10-13-2015, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Kyle Orton circa 2009-2011.

We beat the Packers. With Kyle Orton.

Best QB we've had since Green.

**bevischief** · 10-13-2015, 12:17 PM

Almost any other job someone would have been fired.

44yearsandcounting · 10-13-2015, 12:17 PM

I don't post here often. I'm usually content to simply read the posts of others, both inane and sublime. I'm in my late 40's and have been a fan of this team going back to Steve Fuller, Bill Kenney, Blackledge taking a shotgun snap to the face, squeaking into the 86 playoffs only to get destroyed by the Jets, Marty-ball, Gunther, Vermeil and so on. I was willing to give AS a chance. He's shown me all I need to see and he reminds me almost exactly of a qb we had in 89 named Steve. No, not the tough SOB who played with a dislocated finger, but Steve Pelluer. We may not have hit rock bottom, but I can see it hurtling towards us at terminal velocity.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-13-2015, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

If the next QB of this team isn't a highly drafted

Doesn't matter. Pick someone, any round and let them play.

**Baby Lee** · 10-13-2015, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Biggest Problems:
1. Reid.
2. Smith.
3. Loss of Charles.
4. Dee Ford.
5. Secondary that can't cover.
6. OL
7. WR's 2-5.
8. Injury/old age/disease to DJ, Berry, Poe.

1. . . . 6, . . . 5, 2, 3 [will probably move up in the future, but to new to be a 'present' woe], 7, 9, 4.

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44yearsandcounting Starter Join Date: Jul 2014 Casino cash: $10009123	I don't post here often. I'm usually content to simply read the posts of others, both inane and sublime. I'm in my late 40's and have been a fan of this team going back to Steve Fuller, Bill Kenney, Blackledge taking a shotgun snap to the face, squeaking into the 86 playoffs only to get destroyed by the Jets, Marty-ball, Gunther, Vermeil and so on. I was willing to give AS a chance. He's shown me all I need to see and he reminds me almost exactly of a qb we had in 89 named Steve. No, not the tough SOB who played with a dislocated finger, but Steve Pelluer. We may not have hit rock bottom, but I can see it hurtling towards us at terminal velocity.
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