Chiefs Charles to the Patriots? - Page 4

King_Chief_Fan · 04-02-2016, 09:09 AM

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what is Charles worth?

Psyko Tek · 04-02-2016, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

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what is Charles worth?

TOM BRADY
never trade JC, and if you do make them hurt for it

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-02-2016, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

This better not happen. Dorsey would be an idiot to trade him to them. Why are teams always helping them with trades? You want them to fail not get better.

ThaVirus · 04-02-2016, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Tuckdaddy is a buffoon, but why would we want to trade our best player to the team most likely to be our #1 road block on the road to the Super Bowl?

You don't make these types of trades to conference contenders or within your division, IMO.

ThaVirus · 04-02-2016, 03:30 PM

How ridiculous would their offense be with Brady, Charles, Gronk, Bennett, and Edelman?

Our defense doesn't have the horses to keep up.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-02-2016, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Tuckdaddy is a buffoon, but why would we want to trade our best player to the team most likely to be our #1 road block on the road to the Super Bowl?

You don't make these types of trades to conference contenders or within your division, IMO.

If some team is dumb enough to trade a #2 for a 29 year old running back with two ACL surgeries, whose game is predicated on slashing and cutting, you do it.

And Charles is not the Chiefs "best" or most important offensive skill player.

It's a tie between Maclin and Kelce, although I lean Maclin at this point.

milkman · 04-02-2016, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

If some team is dumb enough to trade a #2 for a 29 year old running back with two ACL surgeries, whose game is predicated on slashing and cutting, you do it.

And Charles is not the Chiefs "best" or most important offensive skill player.

It's a tie between Maclin and Kelce, although I lean Maclin at this point.

I think to describe Charles as a slasher and cutting is off the mark.

His game is about speed and burst, though he does have a little more power than he's given credit for.

He doesn't make people miss.
He finds a seam and hits it.

**SAUTO** · 04-02-2016, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I think to describe Charles as a slasher and cutting is off the mark.

His game is about speed and burst, though he does have a little more power than he's given credit for.

He doesn't make people miss.
He finds a seam and hits it.

He is a bike rider runner.

His cuts are sometimes more leans

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-02-2016, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

He is a bike rider runner.

His cuts are sometimes more leans

I agree. And that's what makes his second ACL injury even more concerning that his first.

He's not a straight ahead, power type runner.

He appears to be off-balance when he runs but that's, as you stated, him leaning, which put pressure on his knees.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 04-02-2016, 03:48 PM

Won't happen.

But it's all about buying low and selling high

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 04-02-2016, 03:50 PM

Think about what happened to Dwayne Wade, Derrick Rose, and Ginobli's knees. Jamaal Charles is no different. All the side stepping and slashing took a toll and he will never be the same guy. Could we work him in to the lineup and get 60% of the snaps he was taking before? Absolutely. But his 2017 salary is too much to stomach. Unless he restructures, this could be his last season with us.

**New World Order** · 04-02-2016, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Think about what happened to Dwayne Wade, Derrick Rose, and Ginobli's knees. Jamaal Charles is no different. All the side stepping and slashing took a toll and he will never be the same guy. Could we work him in to the lineup and get 60% of the snaps he was taking before? Absolutely. But his 2017 salary is too much to stomach. Unless he restructures, this could be his last season with us.

Charles and Ware can be the best 1-2 punch in the league.

Charles is elite, and Ware will be there soon.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 04-02-2016, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

The Patriots are going to spend $6m, plus the trade cost, on a running back coming back from ACL surgery, when they've already got Dion Lewis having to come back from the same thing, and pretty much nothing at all behind that?

Next rumor

That's all this is and from a no-name source. Dion Lewis meets the needs of the Pats need and they can find some half-decent goal-line back to cover the rest.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 04-02-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

Charles and Ware can be the best 1-2 punch in the league.

Charles is elite, and Ware will be there soon.

I agree. Although if West/Ware in 2017 is what we have to go with, we are in good hands behind this improving O-line and plenty of draft picks to draft depth if Davis/Charles end up leaving.

Releasing Charles in 2017 rather than paying him that 8+ million is big money to spend on Poe +/- a free agent corner/safety/linebacker if that's we are in desperate need of obtaining next off season.

Otter · 04-02-2016, 04:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dumb as ****, as always.

Only a moron would pass on a second round pick for a 29 year old running back coming off his second ACL injury, whose game is predicated on slashing and cutting.

You jump on that quicker than Jenny Mccarthy 20 years ago after her 3rd martini.

Chief Northman · 04-02-2016, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Otter

You jump on that quicker than Jenny Mccarthy 20 years ago after her 3rd martini.

Interesting analogy. I like.

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TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Think about what happened to Dwayne Wade, Derrick Rose, and Ginobli's knees. Jamaal Charles is no different. All the side stepping and slashing took a toll and he will never be the same guy. Could we work him in to the lineup and get 60% of the snaps he was taking before? Absolutely. But his 2017 salary is too much to stomach. Unless he restructures, this could be his last season with us.
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