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Old 04-02-2016, 09:09 AM  
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Charles to the Patriots?
http://beantownbeattomdarcy.sportsbl...n-a-trade.html

what is Charles worth?
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:13 PM   #76
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And yet the Chiefs went 11-1 without him.

He's not as important as you believe.

Actually, it's not even close.


I don't believe I've argued his importance in this entire thread.
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:13 PM   #77
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We trade Jamaal Charles to the Patriots, then he runs 200 yards against us in the championship game. No thanks, Jeff.
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:13 PM   #78
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Being the best at your job means being healthy for the playoffs and HOLDING on to the ball.

90% of this board was convinced the season turned the night he fumbled away the donk game.

West and Ware salvaged the offense and just resigned for modest deals.

Love Charles, but it is what it is...time waits for no one.
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:14 PM   #79
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I don't believe I've argued his importance in this entire thread.
Really?

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but why would we want to trade our best player to the team most likely to be our #1 road block on the road to the Super Bowl?
So the "best player" isn't important?
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:16 PM   #80
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Really?



So the "best player" isn't important?


Alex Smith is more important to this team than Jamaal Charles. Jamaal Charles is better than Alex Smith.

Do you understand what I'm saying?
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:26 PM   #81
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Being the best at your job means being healthy for the playoffs and HOLDING on to the ball.

90% of this board was convinced the season turned the night he fumbled away the donk game.

West and Ware salvaged the offense and just resigned for modest deals.

Love Charles, but it is what it is...time waits for no one.

This all day long !


If we keep Charles just let him return kicks. He'll be good for 3 TD's and lots of good returns.
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Old 04-02-2016, 05:58 PM   #82
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Really?



So the "best player" isn't important?
Not when he's a RB.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:01 PM   #83
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JC is going to be yuuuge for us this year behind this young line, this team is primed for a deeep run in 2016... any talk of a trade is apostasy

Get rid of my all time favorite back just as the team is becoming truly ready to compete for the strap?
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:02 PM   #84
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Not when he's a RB.
I remember the day with the RB WAS important.

Thank FF. Ruined the game.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:05 PM   #85
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looser?
Are you retarted?
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:08 PM   #86
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I remember the day with the RB WAS important.

Thank FF. Ruined the game.
That was the perception.

But the reality is that defense wins championships, and it always has.

We've become so caught up with the idea that QB is so important, myself included, that we really didn't see that reality.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:18 PM   #87
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The Kansas City Chiefs signed running backs Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware to contract extensions on Thursday, which could spell the end of Jamaal Charles tenure with the team.

In the wake of Charles being lost for the season to an ACL injury, West and Ware combined to rush for more than 1,000 yards in 2015. The 29-year-old veteran is expected to be fully healthy by the start of training camp, but Kansas City has reportedly entered into trade discussions with the Miami Dolphins regarding Charles. With LeGarrette Blount's days in New England numbered, could the Patriots pursue the Chiefs' all-time leading rusher?

The Patriots came into this offseason with needs at offensive line, wide receiver, and running back. To this point, the team has traded for OL Jonathan Cooper and signed wide receivers Chris Hogan and Nate Washington to replace Brandon LaFell. The team has also brought in UConn product and former San Diego Chargers running back Donald Brown on a one-year deal, but with big-name players like Arian Foster, Ronnie Hillman, and Charles on the roster, his roster spot is not guaranteed. With Dion Lewis recovering from his own ACL injury and no real "feature" back on the roster, Charles would be worth taking a flyer on at the right cost.

Talks between the Chiefs and Dolphins have resulted in Kansas City trying to move running back Knile Davis rather than Charles, Armando Salguero of the Miami Herald reports. Salguero goes on to say that this is in part due to Davis requesting a trade after falling behind West and Ware on the depth chart last season, as well as Kansas City's hope that Charles can rebound from his reconstructive knee surgery. The Chiefs would need to be "blown away" with an offer for Charles, and Miami does not appear to have the resources to do so, according to Salguero.

Whether the Patriots have or would be willing to part with a significant package for Charles is unknown to this point, but it could happen. New England sent a second-round draft pick to the Cincinnati Bengals running back Corey Dillon back in 2004, who also happened to be 29 at the time of the deal. The Patriots already showed they were willing to deal impact players when they shipped Chandler Jones to the Arizona Cardinals, and they could use the second-round pick acquired in the trade to acquire a new running back. Since Dillon joined the Patriots, Bill Belichick has been hesitant to invest in other big-name running backs.

Charles signed a two-year extension to keep him in Kansas City through the 2017 season, but a laundry list of injuries could make the Chiefs opt to go with younger, cheaper legs. Given the remaining money owed to Charles, the Patriots may need to restructure his deal in order to make it work, but that is common in the NFL today. Not only could the Patriots strike gold if Charles returns to his old self, but as a traditional power runner, he is the prefect compliment to the pass-catching Dion Lewis.

Charles ran for 364 yards and four touchdowns on 71 attempts last season before his injury.

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All OPs should include the entire article IMO.
Corey Dillion was more durable and could handle a heavy load better than Jamaal at this point.

He was vital to the Patriots in the ending of the SB win series. An excellent closer that could handle the load, martyball style.

If New England gives them a 2nd rounder for Charles, I think you've got to take it.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:24 PM   #88
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I thought the Pats had a history of low balling on offers. That, or attracting FA's for a lower price but a chance for a ring? Jamaal doesn't fit either of those catagories so, as it stands, 2 3rds sounds right.
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Old 04-02-2016, 06:28 PM   #89
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Not really. He led the entire league in TDs in 2013 and was, IIRC, second or third in total TDs in 2014 despite missing a couple games.
Yea 2013 was his last year of truly ELITE production

2016 - 2013 = 3

entering 3rd year since his last elite season.

2014 was hardly elite production, you don't get that season, Chris Ivory put up those stats this year for goodness sake. And by missed a couple games you mean he missed 1 lol
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