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**Buck** · 10-10-2016, 10:20 PM

I sold a concert festival ticket today on eBay and the guy sent me money via PayPal.

I priced it way below face because the concert is on Friday and I had to sell fast and FedEx overnight (sending tomorrow).

6 hours later he sends a message saying "I'd like to cancel this order please"

Because of the lack of time left for me to get this out to someone I'm inclined to say no, you already paid me, and took my listing offline.

Am I in the right to do so?

cosmo20002 · 10-10-2016, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You're screwed unless the guy is nice.

PayPal changed their policy last year. Buyers have 180 days to reverse purchases, for any reason.

Good luck.

Wrong.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-10-2016, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Yes the OP said he selected "no refunds" but its actually "no returns". He hasnt shipped the item yet so "no returns" is meaningless. Even if he ships it the buyer can screw him over which is what you are saying.

The buyer can screw him over even if he doesn't ship it.

The buyer can claim fraud, leave a bad rating and screw him with PayPal.

Unless you're a high volume seller than can handle bad customers and frauds eBay is awful and nothing like it was in the 90's and early 2000's.

I sold more than 500 fairly high dollar items on eBay before the change and I'll never sell again on their site.

Too many scammers.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-10-2016, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Wrong.

Really? Are you an eBay seller? What's your rating?

What's your eBay store?

dj56dt58 · 10-10-2016, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The buyer can screw him over even if he doesn't ship it.

The buyer can claim fraud, leave a bad rating and screw him with PayPal.

Unless you're a high volume seller than can handle bad customers and frauds eBay is awful and nothing like it was in the 90's and early 2000's.

I sold more than 500 fairly high dollar items on eBay before the change and I'll never sell again on their site.

Too many scammers.

lol, the buyer wants to cancel, why would be bother screwing him over if he cancels the order. Even if they leave neg feedback all he has to do is prove the buyer requested the cancellation and the feedback would be removed. He also cant screw him over with Paypal because the transaction would be cancelled and refunded. Whats he going to do to screw him over when the payment is already refunded? Trust me, Im well aware of the scammers especially when it comes to international shipping.

cosmo20002 · 10-10-2016, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Really? Are you an eBay seller? What's your rating?

What's your eBay store?

I have 400 or so feedback. Used to sell a lot of tickets before Stubhub became so easy and a much smarter way to do it.

Anyway, you can ask for a reverse in a certain time, but that doesn't mean the buyer will get it. You're acting like there is 180-day return policy on everything. There isn't. And "I can't make it" isn't a valid reason for cancelling a transaction for tickets.

However, that doesn't mean the buyer can't lie and **** with the seller and claim they never received the tickets or some shit.

A last-minute ticket sale on ebay is a terrible method. If no pdf or barcode to sell on stubhub, my last resort would be craigslist.

cosmo20002 · 10-10-2016, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

lol, the buyer wants to cancel, why would be bother screwing him over if he cancels the order. Even if they leave neg feedback all he has to do is prove the buyer requested the cancellation and the feedback would be removed. He also cant screw him over with Paypal because the transaction would be cancelled and refunded. Whats he going to do to screw him over when the payment is already refunded? Trust me, Im well aware of the scammers especially when it comes to international shipping.

I'm not sure about that. eBay basically never removes a neg feedback no matter how BS it is. Not saying it is impossible, but they really don't like to do it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-10-2016, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

lol, the buyer wants to cancel, why would be bother screwing him over if he cancels the order. Even if they leave neg feedback all he has to do is prove the buyer requested the cancellation and the feedback would be removed. He also cant screw him over with Paypal because the transaction would be cancelled and refunded. Whats he going to do to screw him over when the payment is already refunded? Trust me, Im well aware of the scammers especially when it comes to international shipping.

Because, you buttducking moron, the buyer can accept the item, use it, then claim it's defective or not as advertised for as many as 179 days after purchase.

If you don't think this happens every day, you're even dumber than I suspected.

dj56dt58 · 10-10-2016, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I have 400 or so feedback. Used to sell a lot of tickets before Stubhub became so easy and a much smarter way to do it.

Anyway, you can ask for a reverse in a certain time, but that doesn't mean the buyer will get it. You're acting like there is 180-day return policy on everything. There isn't. And "I can't make it" isn't a valid reason for cancelling a transaction for tickets.

However, that doesn't mean the buyer can't lie and **** with the seller and claim they never received the tickets or some shit.

A last-minute ticket sale on ebay is a terrible method. If no pdf or barcode to sell on stubhub, my last resort would be craigslist.

Yup and i'm betting thats what they will do if he doesnt just cancel and re-list.

cosmo20002 · 10-10-2016, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck

I put returns not accepted. I haven't shipped it yet so I don't know what the rule is there. He just sent me another message saying he can't make it. Maybe in the morning I will tell him I'll post it again and if someone buys it by 3 pm then I'll let him off the hook.

Idk the legality of that. What kind of person pays $400 and renegs?

I thought that even if you put 'no returns' the item can still be return if 'item not as described.' That doesn't really fit for concert tix, so you should be good. Although...you can never underestimate the assholes who will claim they never got the thing you sent. Even if sent certified or registered or whatever.

Your "if sold by 3pm" idea is reasonable, but if they don't sell...
I don't know how much money it is, but I'd likely take my chances and not refund the money and send the guy his tickets. It's a pretty big lie to sign for something and then accuse you of sending an empty envelope. I'd gamble on him not making that claim.

Didn't you get an e-ticket that you can download and sell on Stubhub--that's the way to go.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-10-2016, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I have 400 or so feedback. Used to sell a lot of tickets before Stubhub became so easy and a much smarter way to do it.

Stubhub is owned by eBay, which is crap within itself, but I digress.

Purchasing tickets on eBay is far different than most items, especially musical instrumentt, pro audio gear, etc.

As I mentioned in the last post, PayPal protects buyers for 180 days. So if you send an item in perfect working order and it arrives in perfect working order, but the buyer says on day 179, "Item not as described", PayPal will put a hold on your account, refund the buyer and in most cases, allow the buyer to keep the item.

Maybe it's still fine for clothes and other items but it sucks for bigger ticket items, although the whole "refurb" scam has taken a life of its own, from my understating.

Bottom line: stay away as a seller.

cosmo20002 · 10-10-2016, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Yup and i'm betting thats what they will do if he doesnt just cancel and re-list.

I'm sure people do it, but that's a pretty bold move.

dj56dt58 · 10-10-2016, 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I'm not sure about that. eBay basically never removes a neg feedback no matter how BS it is. Not saying it is impossible, but they really don't like to do it.

Actually you can have one removed without even talking to a rep now. I requested removal of one a while back and because of my first one it was automatically removed once I submitted the request.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-10-2016, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Actually you can have one removed without even talking to a rep now. I requested removal of one a while back and because of my first one it was automatically removed once I submitted the request.

As a seller or buyer?

Power Sellers have to jump through hoops to get a negative removed.

It's easy for a buyer.

dj56dt58 · 10-10-2016, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Because, you buttducking moron, the buyer can accept the item, use it, then claim it's defective or not as advertised for as many as 179 days after purchase.

If you don't think this happens every day, you're even dumber than I suspected.

what the **** are you even talking about? God you are stupid. I never said the buyer can't claim it's defective. I'm suggesting the OP cancel the transaction refund the buyer and re list it to avoid getting scammed. Do you speak english?

dj56dt58 · 10-10-2016, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

As a seller or buyer?

Power Sellers have to jump through hoops to get a negative removed.

It's easy for a buyer.

seller (powerseller account)

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