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**Buck** · 10-10-2016, 10:20 PM

I sold a concert festival ticket today on eBay and the guy sent me money via PayPal.

I priced it way below face because the concert is on Friday and I had to sell fast and FedEx overnight (sending tomorrow).

6 hours later he sends a message saying "I'd like to cancel this order please"

Because of the lack of time left for me to get this out to someone I'm inclined to say no, you already paid me, and took my listing offline.

Am I in the right to do so?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-10-2016, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

what the **** are you even talking about? God you are stupid. I never said the buyer can't claim it's defective. I'm suggesting the OP cancel the transaction refund the buyer and re list it to avoid getting scammed. Do you speak english?

dj56dt58 · 10-10-2016, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

dj56dt58 · 10-10-2016, 11:59 PM

Dildo stuck in your ass again?

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-10-2016, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

seller (powerseller account)

So your telling me that if you sell hundreds of items per year while people are falsely claiming that they didn't receive their items or claiming defective items, etc, eBay will side with the seller?

That is the exact opposite of my experience, especially with international buyers.

I will never, ever sell to an international buyer, ever again.

cosmo20002 · 10-11-2016, 12:00 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Stubhub is owned by eBay, which is crap within itself, but I digress.

Purchasing tickets on eBay is far different than most items, especially musical instrumentt, pro audio gear, etc.

As I mentioned in the last post, PayPal protects buyers for 180 days. So if you send an item in perfect working order and it arrives in perfect working order, but the buyer says on day 179, "Item not as described", PayPal will put a hold on your account, refund the buyer and in most cases, allow the buyer to keep the item.

Maybe it's still fine for clothes and other items but it sucks for bigger ticket items, although the whole "refurb" scam has taken a life of its own, from my understating.

Bottom line: stay away as a seller.

It's supposed to be "significantly not as described, and you're going to have to prove it. Anyway, it is a bitch and yes, I would avoid as a seller.

I've never had a problem at all with Stubhub though, although their buyer fees make Ticketmaster's look cheap. It's basically 20% of the ticket price.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-11-2016, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

Dildo stuck in your ass again?

Mine? You're the butt**** that's talking out of his ass.

dj56dt58 · 10-11-2016, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So your telling me that if you sell hundreds of items per year while people are falsely claiming that they didn't receive their items or claiming defective items, etc, eBay will side with the seller?

That is the exact opposite of my experience, especially with international buyers.

I will never, ever sell to an international buyer, ever again.

No, i'm not telling you that. Where are you getting this?

dj56dt58 · 10-11-2016, 12:04 AM

I am saying if the OP CANCELS AND TRANSACTION REFUNDS IT AND DOESNT SHIP IT the buyer can't screw him. If he ships it then he can get screwed by the buyer saying they received an empty package. The buyer cannot just say they didnt get it anything under $250 and the seller is protected from that. Anything over that amount the seller has to use signature confirmation. If the buyer says they received package but it was empty then your just screwed.

dj56dt58 · 10-11-2016, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So your telling me that if you sell hundreds of items per year while people are falsely claiming that they didn't receive their items or claiming defective items, etc, eBay will side with the seller?

That is the exact opposite of my experience, especially with international buyers.

I will never, ever sell to an international buyer, ever again.

I started selling international again but only with the global shipping program. That way international buyers can claim they didnt get something but as long as Ebay received it from you your covered.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-11-2016, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

It's supposed to be "significantly not as described, and you're going to have to prove it. Anyway, it is a bitch and yes, I would avoid as a seller.

I've never had a problem at all with Stubhub though, although their buyer fees make Ticketmaster's look cheap. It's basically 20% of the ticket price.

I've sold items that were perfect when I shipped, only to be negged as "not as described". Not only were they not returned but I lost the money.

There was only one time in which a bad transaction turned out in my favor. I shipped a keyboard module to NoCal and it arrived destroyed. The buyer was cool, sent it back via Fed Ex and sure enough, it was trashed. A Fed Ex rep came to my house after a several conversations and fortunately, I took pictures of the packing.

Fed Ex refunded me and I had it repaired. I re-listed and lo and behold, the same guy purchased it. It arrived safely.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-11-2016, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by dj56dt58

I started selling international again but only with the global shipping program. That way international buyers can claim they didnt get something but as long as Ebay received it from you your covered.

Good for you but man, I am done forever with international.

I know that people that run businesses rely on it but as an occasional seller (and with software, far less than ever), it's just not worth the hassle.

**DaneMcCloud** · 10-11-2016, 12:10 AM

FYI, for anyone reading this that needs or wants to sell pro audio, guitars, basses, amps, drums, etc., Reverb.com is awesome.

Can't recommend it enough.

Reverb.com.

dj56dt58 · 10-11-2016, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I've sold items that were perfect when I shipped, only to be negged as "not as described". Not only were they not returned but I lost the money.

There was only one time in which a bad transaction turned out in my favor. I shipped a keyboard module to NoCal and it arrived destroyed. The buyer was cool, sent it back via Fed Ex and sure enough, it was trashed. A Fed Ex rep came to my house after a several conversations and fortunately, I took pictures of the packing.

Fed Ex refunded me and I had it repaired. I re-listed and lo and behold, the same guy purchased it. It arrived safely.

I think that policy just changed. I receive a lot of items not as described and recently I noticed you have to request a return. It used to automatically open a case which would lead to a refund regardless of if you returned the item or not. I hated the way it was set up before as they basically made me open a case even if I just wanted to return it

**Buck** · 10-11-2016, 12:13 AM

Just FYI the "ticket" is a wristband with an RF tag in it. Or else I would have just sold on stubhub. The ticket has to be physically sent, from South Carolina to California, unfortunately.

cosmo20002 · 10-11-2016, 12:15 AM

Just a little side story on ebay buyers...I used to be more involved in buying/selling old coins. As you might assume, price is highly dependent on condition and its condition grading. Often the condition is certified by a professional service, sometimes not.

So, savvy buyers scour ebay for stuff that they think are under-graded. And they look for ungraded coins that aren't presented well, like because of a bad pic.

So, they buy the coin.
Then they immediately re-list it with the improved presentation and a description saying it will likely grade higher if certified. Sometimes they sell. But if they don't sell...they just file for a return and say it "wasn't as described" because of an imperfection they didn't see on the listing.
Its a great method...you're basically borrowing someone's inventory and seeing if you can sell at a higher price. If you can't, just return it.
It's BS. eBay has made selling really shitty.

10-10-2016, 10:20 PM
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $5950295	eBay question I sold a concert festival ticket today on eBay and the guy sent me money via PayPal. I priced it way below face because the concert is on Friday and I had to sell fast and FedEx overnight (sending tomorrow). 6 hours later he sends a message saying "I'd like to cancel this order please" Because of the lack of time left for me to get this out to someone I'm inclined to say no, you already paid me, and took my listing offline. Am I in the right to do so?
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10-10-2016, 11:59 PM	#33
dj56dt58 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9960055	Dildo stuck in your ass again?
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10-11-2016, 12:04 AM	#38
dj56dt58 Banned Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9960055	I am saying if the OP CANCELS AND TRANSACTION REFUNDS IT AND DOESNT SHIP IT the buyer can't screw him. If he ships it then he can get screwed by the buyer saying they received an empty package. The buyer cannot just say they didnt get it anything under $250 and the seller is protected from that. Anything over that amount the seller has to use signature confirmation. If the buyer says they received package but it was empty then your just screwed.
Posts: 6,361

10-11-2016, 12:10 AM	#42
DaneMcCloud Supporter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Hollywood, CA Casino cash: $10053648	FYI, for anyone reading this that needs or wants to sell pro audio, guitars, basses, amps, drums, etc., Reverb.com is awesome. Can't recommend it enough. Reverb.com.
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10-11-2016, 12:13 AM	#44
Buck Take a Chill Pill Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: South Carolina Casino cash: $5950295	Just FYI the "ticket" is a wristband with an RF tag in it. Or else I would have just sold on stubhub. The ticket has to be physically sent, from South Carolina to California, unfortunately.
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10-11-2016, 12:15 AM	#45
cosmo20002 Debunking your bullshit Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: KC area Casino cash: $3630890	Just a little side story on ebay buyers...I used to be more involved in buying/selling old coins. As you might assume, price is highly dependent on condition and its condition grading. Often the condition is certified by a professional service, sometimes not. So, savvy buyers scour ebay for stuff that they think are under-graded. And they look for ungraded coins that aren't presented well, like because of a bad pic. So, they buy the coin. Then they immediately re-list it with the improved presentation and a description saying it will likely grade higher if certified. Sometimes they sell. But if they don't sell...they just file for a return and say it "wasn't as described" because of an imperfection they didn't see on the listing. Its a great method...you're basically borrowing someone's inventory and seeing if you can sell at a higher price. If you can't, just return it. It's BS. eBay has made selling really shitty.
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