Time for Dee Ford haters to eat some crow

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bowser

It's almost like we either don't know how to be happy after a convincing win or just can't stand being happy after a convincing win. Jesus, lol.

I was thnking about that last night.

We went in a thoroughly dominated a top 5 offense on the road. I mean, it was worse than the score showed, it was an ass kicking.

We don't know how to react to that.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by O.city

I was thnking about that last night.

We went in a thoroughly dominated a top 5 offense on the road. I mean, it was worse than the score showed, it was an ass kicking.

We don't know how to react to that.

Well, people will just come and say, well their offensive line wasnt good. Well, guess what? The's supposed to dominate lesser olines and struggle against good oline's. Thats why the NFL pays LT's insane money, because its hard to get passed them. IF it wasnt, regardless of who was the pass rusher, they wouldnt make so much damned money (LT's).

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

Well, people will just come and say, well their offensive line wasnt good. Well, guess what? The's supposed to dominate lesser olines and struggle against good oline's. Thats why the NFL pays LT's insane money, because its hard to get passed them. IF it wasnt, regardless of who was the pass rusher, they wouldnt make so much damned money (LT's).

No, no no.

Sacks only count when they come against good pass rushers. Because Von Miller gets all his sacks against Tyron Smith and Joe Thomas.

Offenses are run right now in a way where credible tackles just don't give up many sacks. Fisher's only given up 1 or 2 this year, right? And he's merely good; but no means great.

Good players get fat against bad players and hold their own against other good players. That's what we've seen from Ford this year. The other guy gets paid to play as well. The league is pro-offense so to act like a defensive player should be beating up on similarly talented offensive players is just ignoring the way the league has trended of late.

[kcxiv]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No, no no.

Sacks only count when they come against good pass rushers. Because Von Miller gets all his sacks against Tyron Smith and Joe Thomas.

Offenses are run right now in a way where credible tackles just don't give up many sacks. Fisher's only given up 1 or 2 this year, right? And he's merely good; but no means great.

Good players get fat against bad players and hold their own against other good players. That's what we've seen from Ford this year. The other guy gets paid to play as well. The league is pro-offense so to act like a defensive player should be beating up on similarly talented offensive players is just ignoring the way the league has trended of late.

Von Miller is an elite player. There arent many of him. We all have to admit, he's the best rushing linebacker in the league. Not everyone can be at that level. Im not saying dee ford cant beat a great LT, but its not going to be easy. The Chiefs have had beast olines through the years and not many players dominated guys like Roaf. Its hard to do regardless of who was on the other side.

Anyways, Ford is doing what he's supposed to do. He's getting better and he's starting to make an impact on the game. Keep moving forward youngster.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by O.city

I was thnking about that last night.

We went in a thoroughly dominated a top 5 offense on the road. I mean, it was worse than the score showed, it was an ass kicking.

We don't know how to react to that.

It's pretty clear that most of this forum doesn't know how to react.

For the duration of the offseason, a majority of members have slammed the fact that Dorsey didn't re-sign Sean Smith and that he didn't bring in more pass rushers or cornerbacks. The majority thought the defense was going to be a Work In Progress and that the offense was going to be amazing and make up for it.

Lo and behold, the offense started off slow yet the defense picked up right where it left off last year without Houston, holding high scoring offenses to season low's while young players see a ton of playing time.

The Chiefs thoroughly dominated the Colts, Raiders and Jets defensively, held the Saints to their second lowest point total and the offense is finally clicking.

It just seems like most people here can't handle the fact that the Chiefs are a very good, if not great, football team.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's pretty clear that most of this forum doesn't know how to react.

For the duration of the offseason, a majority of members have slammed the fact that Dorsey didn't re-sign Sean Smith and that he didn't bring in more pass rushers or cornerbacks. The majority thought the defense was going to be a Work In Progress and that the offense was going to be amazing and make up for it.

Lo and behold, the offense started off slow yet the defense picked up right where it left off last year without Houston, holding high scoring offenses to season low's while young players see a ton of playing time.

The Chiefs thoroughly dominated the Colts, Raiders and Jets defensively and the offense is finally clicking.

It just seems like most people here can't handle the fact that the Chiefs are a very good, if not great, football team.

Kicked dog syndrome.

Though there does remain real room for conversation at QB. Sure, the offense looked better yesterday but it tended to look its best with Foles under center. Now, for the good plays Foles made downfield, he missed on some short passes that Smith wouldn't have and it impacted the scoreboard. But there's a real discussion as to whether that improvement downfield more than offset the losses short and the lost mobility (though Smith's not looking as spry these days either).

Man it would've been nice had that game happened just like that with Smith in charge. And really, it might have - Smith went deep twice in his first 3 attempts, correct? There was clearly a commitment to the deep ball. And neither throw to Hill was amazing - the first was a badly underthrown ball that Hill did a nice job adjusting and shielding the DB and the second was just badly blown coverage for an easy pitch and catch. They weren't exactly signs of a sustainable downfield model.

There are still unanswered questions on offense.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Kicked dog syndrome.

Though there does remain real room for conversation at QB. Sure, the offense looked better yesterday but it tended to look its best with Foles under center. Now, for the good plays Foles made downfield, he missed on some short passes that Smith wouldn't have and it impacted the scoreboard. But there's a real discussion as to whether that improvement downfield more than offset the losses short and the lost mobility (though Smith's not looking as spry these days either).

Man it would've been nice had that game happened just like that with Smith in charge. And really, it might have - Smith went deep twice in his first 3 attempts, correct? There was clearly a commitment to the deep ball. And neither throw to Hill was amazing - the first was a badly underthrown ball that Hill did a nice job adjusting and shielding the DB and the second was just badly blown coverage for an easy pitch and catch. They weren't exactly signs of a sustainable downfield model.

There are still unanswered questions on offense.

Foles hit passes that Smith likely wouldn't have and vice versa. But Smith was on fire before the first blow to the head and looked like he was going to have his best game of the year.

I don't see how they don't pick up Foles option next year, regardless of the $10 million dollar cap charge (which can be renegotiated, of course). I don't know if he can truly become a Franchise QB but Smith has taken a lot of hits this year, which tend to compound over the course of a season or two.

If Foles can't be a Franchise QB, he'd make a helluva transition QB.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's pretty clear that most of this forum doesn't know how to react.

For the duration of the offseason, a majority of members have slammed the fact that Dorsey didn't re-sign Sean Smith and that he didn't bring in more pass rushers or cornerbacks. The majority thought the defense was going to be a Work In Progress and that the offense was going to be amazing and make up for it.

Lo and behold, the offense started off slow yet the defense picked up right where it left off last year without Houston, holding high scoring offenses to season low's while young players see a ton of playing time.

The Chiefs thoroughly dominated the Colts, Raiders and Jets defensively, held the Saints to their second lowest point total and the offense is finally clicking.

It just seems like most people here can't handle the fact that the Chiefs are a very good, if not great, football team.

5/7 Chiefs opponents are top 12 in scoring offense. The Chiefs are currently 8th in points allowed after playing all those teams without their best player.