Do you Hope Foles Takes over the QB position ?

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

If Smith doesn't get us to the Superbowl THIS year with a team this loaded. Then we for damn sure need to re evaluate his contract a d future here.

Smith has to produce at a high level in January and February. No more excuses. It's past time for him to deliver.

This has to go hand in hand with the defense covering receivers, Sutton not going brain dead, turnovers, and Andy at times stupid play calling.....

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Kman34

This has to go hand in hand with the defense covering receivers, Sutton not going brain dead, turnovers, and Andy at times stupid play calling.....

Apparently, those are just "excuses" to many. Really would be interesting to see if the next Chiefs QB gets these excuses, or if people remain consistent.

We will get a glimpse of this today, no doubt.



As to the Chiefs' winning formula, Alex does his part. The failure thus far is when other key parts of the winning formula are missing due to injury. That is when the winning formula fails.

Yet, people expect the QB to pick up the slack for these missing components. Is that fair? maybe.

If we are to call this fair, maybe we should take a look at other QBs... better regarded QBs.. when they are lacking key components to their team's winning formula.

How bout we swing for the fences, and go right after Aaron Rodgers?

AR won the SB back in 2010 on a stacked GB team.. why has he not gone back to a SB since? He's elite, right? why could he not overcome any deficiencies that they endured since?

The popular answer seems to go something like this.. "uh well, he won one already, so he gets all the slack he wants!"

Yes, as said.. he did win it back then.. on a stacked team. What happened that made him unable to win again on a team that started showing cracks in the perfection?

If anyone "feels like playing this honest game" for perspective, throw other QB names out there, and defend why they couldn't get past their multitude of team injuries and problems.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Apparently, those are just "excuses" to many. Really would be interesting to see if the next Chiefs QB gets these excuses, or if people remain consistent.

We will get a glimpse of this today, no doubt.



As to the Chiefs' winning formula, Alex does his part. The failure thus far is when other key parts of the winning formula are missing due to injury. That is when the winning formula fails.

Yet, people expect the QB to pick up the slack for these missing components. Is that fair? maybe.

If we are to call this fair, maybe we should take a look at other QBs... better regarded QBs.. when they are lacking key components to their team's winning formula.

How bout we swing for the fences, and go right after Aaron Rodgers?

AR won the SB back in 2010 on a stacked GB team.. why has he not gone back to a SB since? He's elite, right? why could he not overcome any deficiencies that they endured since?

The popular answer seems to go something like this.. "uh well, he won one already, so he gets all the slack he wants!"

Yes, as said.. he did win it back then.. on a stacked team. What happened that made him unable to win again on a team that started showing cracks in the perfection?

If anyone "feels like playing this honest game" for perspective, throw other QB names out there, and defend why they couldn't get past their multitude of team injuries and problems.

The fact that Aaron Rodgers hasn't won a Super Bowl since 2010 is not justification for settling for mediocrity or below.

Wonder how that 2010 team would have done without Rodgers that year....???? I wonder how they would have done with Alex Smith... Probably not good because in the words of the great Mike Singletary:

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by rico

The fact that Aaron Rodgers hasn't won a Super Bowl since 2010 is not justification for settling for mediocrity or below.

You managed to contribute nothing useful to address anything in my post. Well done. Deflection, deliberately obtuse, or just cornered rat.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Elizabeth Cheeks

You managed to contribute nothing useful to address anything in my post. Well done. Deflection, deliberately obtuse, or just cornered rat.

It comes off as if you are downplaying the importance of the QB position to justify settling for mediocrity or below at that position. Maybe not what you intended, but it comes off that way to an extent.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by rico

It comes off as if you are downplaying the importance of the QB position to justify settling for mediocrity or below at that position. Maybe not what you intended, but it comes off that way to an extent.

Alex Smith can do everything this offense needs him to do at a high level. Reid already said this. What more do you want?

You want a QB like Brees, Brady, Luck, Rodgers etc so we can score 50 pts a game because fans like to see offense... Okay. I get that. Fine, but be prepared to pay the price. Those guys cost money and our defense will lose talent and suffer because of it.

Personally I'd rather have an elite D than an elite QB... Defense wins championships.

As far as people saying Foles looked so much better than Alex in the Colts gm. Not buying that he is better because of one game. Might want to check out some highlights from Foles years with the Rams. He was god awful.

Pretty bad in his years with the Eagles as well. He had one good fluke year, big deal. Cassel threw 27 TDs 7 INTs one year as well.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Alex Smith can do everything this offense needs him to do at a high level. Reid already said this. What more do you want?

Reid also said Alex did not have a concussion and is his starting QB.

But isn't starting this week and isn't going to be active...

[rico]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Alex Smith can do everything this offense needs him to do at a high level. Reid already said this. What more do you want?

You want a QB like Brees, Brady, Luck, Rodgers etc so we can score 50 pts a game because fans like to see offense... Okay. I get that. Fine, but be prepared to pay the price. Those guys cost money and our defense will lose talent and suffer because of it.

Personally I'd rather have an elite D than an elite QB... Defense wins championships.

As far as people saying Foles looked so much better than Alex in the Colts gm. Not buying that he is better because of one game. Might want to check out some highlights from Foles years with the Rams. He was god awful.

Pretty bad in his years with the Eagles as well. He had one good fluke year, big deal. Cassel threw 27 TDs 7 INTs one year as well.

What in the world is Reid supposed to say??? Would you ever, regardless of circumstances, expect him to say anything different????

I've watched a lot of Foles with the Eagles. Nothing can convince me that his good stretch was flukey.

I didn't see much of him in St. Louis, but I don't think he was at a place that was by any means, right for him....a lot of "good" QB's would struggle there.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by rico

Probably not good because in the words of the great Mike Singletary:

Singletary was a great player, but possibly the worst HC in the history of football. What does a linebacker know about QBs? Not a damn thing as it turned out.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Singletary was a great player, but possibly the worst HC in the history of football. What does a linebacker know about QBs? Not a damn thing as it turned out.

Harbs had Alex playing his best ball ever and even he knew Alex at his best isn't good enough p

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

Harbs had Alex playing his best ball ever and even he knew Alex at his best isn't good enough p

Yet turned out to be better than Kap. And Foles. Harbaugh was wrong and so are you.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Yet turned out to be better than Kap. And Foles. Harbaugh was wrong and so are you.

Harbaugh had his ass handed to him after making that decision and ran back to the college game.

[oaklandhater]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Yet turned out to be better than Kap. And Foles. Harbaugh was wrong and so are you.

Harbs was not wrong replacing him with kap was is and always will be the right move at the time

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

If anyone "feels like playing this honest game" for perspective, throw other QB names out there, and defend why they couldn't get past their multitude of team injuries and problems.

I'm sure we can find plenty of examples of QBs over the last 10 SB's stepping up, maybe even playing above their average play, to win. In the years where Flacco and Eli won, they had a lot of help. Even a lot of luck. But they also made plays in huge moments that maybe they don't always make. Nobody is asking Alex to drag the Cleveland Browns to the SB or to do it all himself. He has plenty around him, and even if they get injured, it's what he is going to have to do.

I'm not saying I expect Alex to do it all. But the NE game shouldn't be brushed aside as "well we didn't have Maclin or Houston". Smith needs to step up and pick up a little of the slack in that game, along with others. Do you think he did that? Do you think he can do that? Those are fair questions.

Another fair question, do you think KC would be healthy if they went in to NE this year? With how the year has gone, what are the odds that our Oline is intact? Our backfield? Our secondary? Injuries are going to happen. If this team wants to win or at least get to a SB, it will need to overcome injuries against a very good team at some point. Can't keep saying "well we might have won that playoff game if we didn't have injuries". A QB is as important as any other in overcoming them.

The crux of my point is this. IMO Smith will need to step up and make some big plays he typically doesn't if they are going to win in NE, or an AFCCG, or a SB. Odds are we are not going to be fully healthy in the playoffs. Whether it is fair or not really isn't the question. I think he is going to have to. So the question is, can he?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

The crux of my point is this. IMO Smith will need to step up and make some big plays he typically doesn't if they are going to win in NE, or an AFCG, or a SB. Whether it is fair or not really isn't the question. I think he is going to have to. So the question is, can he?

With 4 years of tape to study everyone knows Alex will play safe and throw short until he's forced to go deep.

It's not hard to figure out when he'd be forced to throw deep and when you don't go deep that often you aren't as good at it...