Halfway point of the season: Grade Eric Fisher year-to-date

[JimNasium]

He's in his fourth year now, was extended during the off-season and has been semi (mostly) controversial during his 3 1/2 years in a Chief's uniform. This year I've not read much about him though. Give me an assessment please, fatty experts. How's he doing in his fourth year in the league?

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

his pass blocking "slightly" better than Alberts. Not worthy of the 1st pick bro.




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I noticed you sorted him on pass block and not run block since it helped your argument more. On that list he is the 6th best run blocker. Obviously I can't see the rest. His overall grade is also better than the one you sorted. There are plenty of homers on this board. You just are on the other side of the spectrum, which isn't any better.

By the way, WHO would you have drafted with the 1st overall pick that year?

[CapsLockKey]

So far he's holding up his end of the nice contract extension the Chiefs gave him. Other than the Bowe deal when he first got here, Dorsey has been nailing it when it comes to re-signing the right guys.

[NJChiefsFan]

Seriously, who the hell should KC have drafted? Sheldon Richardson isn't even starting for the Jets this season and was benched for showing up late this Sunday. Who did they realistically pass on? Don't give me some 2nd or 3rd rounder that nobody in their right mind would have taken without two years of hindsight.

[Anyong Bluth]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

Seriously, who the hell should KC have drafted. Sheldon Richardson isn't even starting for the Jets this season and was benched for showing up late this Sunday. Who did the realistically pass on? Don't give me some 2nd or 3rd rounder that nobody in their right mind would have taken without two years of hindsight.

Because idiots say he's not 1.1 talent.
Yeah, no shit.

"Because Chiefs" strikes again, and we get the #1 in the year there wasn't anyone who would have been even a top 5 talent pick most years.

But instead, asshats wanna criticize the pick as if Rivers and Manning were available.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

You've got to give him this, he's a hell of a lot better than he was. He HAS improved quite a bit. Remember how bad he was?!? Oh my GOD. He used to get totally destroyed on almost every play. I know he had shoulder issues, but he could've gotten someone killed he was so bad.

[Bob Dole]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

He wants anyone banned who proves him wrong or criticizes Chief players.

Geno Smith!

Phuqtard.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by Inmem58

Do you have something different?

The only thing Albert has higher than Fisher in your chart is his jersey number. Maybe you should've selected that column to support your stance.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Solid B heading towards a B+ or an A depending on how the next 8 games and playoffs go.

without yet having read further, this looks like the right answer, imo.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by O.city

When you have to cherry pick a stat there and re arrange the chart to move a guy down, yeah, I don't put alot of stock in that

For the grand sum of $15 million and 1 pick spent in the first 2 days of the draft, the Chiefs have assembled one of the top 10 OLs in football.

I'd say Dorsey has kicked some serious ass in putting the OL together.

As for Fisher specifically, not much more to be said than has already been said. You never notice him out there and that's a good thing. I think he's improved a great deal in the run game and in the passing game he's held his own. You'd like to see a little more improvement there. The good news is that pass pro is largely technique, especially with a guy that has the athleticism of Fisher. I expect he'll continue to get better in the passing game.

I don't think he's going to turn into a Joe Thomas caliber, first team all-pro guy but he's going to be a steady top 10 LT and that's a fine use of that pick coming out of a truly shit-tastic draft.

He's a good football player who's finally learning to use his physical gifts to his advantage. A plus player that's improving is pretty damn good to have around.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

That's subjective don't you think. That allows for personal opinions and emotions to skew the personal take on it.

Not really. I could tell when he was getting his ass handed to him just like I can tell when he is playing well.

[NJChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

For the grand sum of $15 million and 1 pick spent in the first 2 days of the draft, the Chiefs have assembled one of the top 10 OLs in football.

I'd say Dorsey has kicked some serious ass in putting the OL together.

As for Fisher specifically, not much more to be said than has already been said. You never notice him out there and that's a good thing. I think he's improved a great deal in the run game and in the passing game he's held his own. You'd like to see a little more improvement there. The good news is that pass pro is largely technique, especially with a guy that has the athleticism of Fisher. I expect he'll continue to get better in the passing game.

I don't think he's going to turn into a Joe Thomas caliber, first team all-pro guy but he's going to be a steady top 10 LT and that's a fine use of that pick coming out of a truly shit-tastic draft.

He's a good football player who's finally learning to use his physical gifts to his advantage. A plus player that's improving is pretty damn good to have around.

And there are two different questions. Was Fisher the best choice? Was Fisher the talent that you hope for with the 1.1?

I don't see how the first question is even a debate.

As for the 2nd, yeah you would love to get Joe Staley talent at 1.1. It didn't happen. At this point though, you move on and appreciate the talent and don't fret over where he was taken. It was the luck of the draw for KC. They got a good player. They didn't get a no doubt, best LT in the league like you dream of with the 1.1. It happens.

At least they made the right choice in the draft. There are a ton of busts in the top of that draft considering their draft position. We could have one of them, which would hurt us at their position potentially and the LT position.

[Hoover]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

For the grand sum of $15 million and 1 pick spent in the first 2 days of the draft, the Chiefs have assembled one of the top 10 OLs in football.

I'd say Dorsey has kicked some serious ass in putting the OL together.

As for Fisher specifically, not much more to be said than has already been said. You never notice him out there and that's a good thing. I think he's improved a great deal in the run game and in the passing game he's held his own. You'd like to see a little more improvement there. The good news is that pass pro is largely technique, especially with a guy that has the athleticism of Fisher. I expect he'll continue to get better in the passing game.

I don't think he's going to turn into a Joe Thomas caliber, first team all-pro guy but he's going to be a steady top 10 LT and that's a fine use of that pick coming out of a truly shit-tastic draft.

He's a good football player who's finally learning to use his physical gifts to his advantage. A plus player that's improving is pretty damn good to have around.

This.

Amd this is why you use a 2nd or 3rd round pick in every draft to keep adding talent and depth. If you do that you don't need to shop for olinemen in the frist round and don't need to spend FA cash on them either.

[RunKC]

Let's see here:

2013-steady LT who is doing a solid job from the worst draft in years.
2014-pass rusher who is currently 2nd in sacks
2015-generational All-Pro caliber CB

Yeah I think Dorsey has just about owned every detractor so far.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Let's see here:

2013-steady LT who is doing a solid job from the worst draft in years.
2014-generational All-Pro caliber CB
2015-Pass rusher who is currently 2nd in sacks

Yeah I think Dorsey has just about owned every detractor so far.

2016 - traded into 2nd round and picked up a beast of a DL making an impact his rookie season.

What picks did we get in that trade down?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by NJChiefsFan

And there are two different questions. Was Fisher the best choice? Was Fisher the talent that you hope for with the 1.1?

I don't see how the first question is even a debate.

As for the 2nd, yeah you would love to get Joe Staley talent at 1.1. It didn't happen. At this point though, you move on and appreciate the talent and don't fret over where he was taken. It was the luck of the draw for KC. They got a good player. They didn't get a no doubt, best LT in the league like you dream of with the 1.1. It happens.

At least they made the right choice in the draft. There are a ton of busts in the top of that draft considering their draft position. We could have one of them, which would hurt us at their position potentially and the LT position.

Yeah but as you've noted, question 2 is largely irrelevant.

You can only work with the hand you're dealt. Would it have been nice to have pocket aces in that draft? Sure - but Dorsey got rags and managed to do alright anyway. That's all you can ask.