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Old 11-21-2016, 11:44 AM   #1
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And the take away our possession with 8 secs left in the game as well as it was never going to happen
We're still only 1 less than the Bucs.....but keep acting like we had 4 possessions all game.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:45 AM   #2
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We're still only 1 less than the Bucs.....but keep acting like we had 4 possessions all game.
The Bucs shortest drive was 9 plays that ended in a FG. Yeah, stellar defensive performance.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:48 AM   #3
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The Bucs shortest drive was 9 plays that ended in a FG. Yeah, stellar defensive performance.
No one is claiming the defense had a "stellar" performance yesterday. But the fact of the matter is, 19 points is 19 points. People, specifically the Alex apologists, are making it seem as if the defense gave up 40 points and they made it impossible for our offense to do anything.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:49 AM   #4
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No one is claiming the defense had a "stellar" performance yesterday. But the fact of the matter is, 19 points is 19 points. People, specifically the Alex apologists, are making it seem as if the defense gave up 40 points and they made it impossible for our offense to do anything.
Gee, now go back and read the OP of the thread in which you just replied...
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:08 AM   #5
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Until we can stop the run we are toast. Bucs running game opened up their passing game and why they converted so many 3rd downs. Even IF Peters plays yesterday IMHO we still lose. Our defense flashes but is not consistent.

Andy's play calling is much of our problem on offense IMHO. Bucs just flat out manhandled us, far more physical than we were for sure. Their o-line dominated our d-line. After the first two drives of the Bucs I knew it was going to be a long day because you could see they had their confidence and were not intimidated by Arrowhead whatsoever and especially not by our d-front that got gashed and passed on all day.
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Old 11-22-2016, 12:22 AM   #6
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I never did buy into the AFC West being the toughest division talk. What the Falcons did to Denver in Mile High just a few weeks ago is what the Bucs did to us yesterday.

Chiefs and Raiders are full on paper tigers and Denver is half a paper tiger only because their D is that good especially their 2ndary. I don't care what the records are because they will be exposed in the playoffs assuming maybe all 3 make it.

Yes I realize there is still a lot of football to be played but I just don't have a good feeling coming down the wire. Yesterday really exposed the Chiefs weaknesses that I don't think can be fixed.
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I never did buy into the AFC West being the toughest division talk. What the Falcons did to Denver in Mile High just a few weeks ago is what the Bucs did to us yesterday.

Chiefs and Raiders are full on paper tigers and Denver is half a paper tiger only because their D is that good especially their 2ndary. I don't care what the records are because they will be exposed in the playoffs assuming maybe all 3 make it.

Yes I realize there is still a lot of football to be played but I just don't have a good feeling coming down the wire. Yesterday really exposed the Chiefs weaknesses that I don't think can be fixed.
Hard to assess a team when 4 key starters (Peters, Ford, Maclin, Howard) are not on the field and Houston isn't up to speed.
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Old 11-21-2016, 12:45 PM   #8
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No one is claiming the defense had a "stellar" performance yesterday. But the fact of the matter is, 19 points is 19 points. People, specifically the Alex apologists, are making it seem as if the defense gave up 40 points and they made it impossible for our offense to do anything.
They couldn't stop the Bucs on 3rd down. They were 11/16 and for some reason I thought it would be worse than that. They just chewed up a lot of clock at times and it seemed like we were powerless to stop them. Marcus Peters really is our MVP because without him we are just sunk.
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Old 11-21-2016, 11:49 AM   #9
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We're still only 1 less than the Bucs.....but keep acting like we had 4 possessions all game.
Keep acting like they lost by 30.

One drive when you lost by 2 points is pretty damn critical, is it not?

But in the respective number of drives isn't the issue because the Bucs taking long, time consuming drives limits their numbers as well. It's isn't a comparison between the teams but a comparison between the respective weeks.

Getting 7 offensive series in a game is awful. 9 should really be the lowest acceptable number and that's if neither side is playing great offense. A standard defensive battle should really be around 9 drives. But when you just cannot get a team off the field until they've driven deep into your own territory, your offense isn't going to ever get on the field. The defense allowing the Bucs into Chiefs territory on every drive yesterday is the worst stat to come out of that game. The offense led 2 sustained drives for scores. The offense put up 19 despite NO help from the D. The offense still wasn't good, but the defense was absolutely worse.
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Keep acting like they lost by 30.

One drive when you lost by 2 points is pretty damn critical, is it not?

But in the respective number of drives isn't the issue because the Bucs taking long, time consuming drives limits their numbers as well. It's isn't a comparison between the teams but a comparison between the respective weeks.

Getting 7 offensive series in a game is awful. 9 should really be the lowest acceptable number and that's if neither side is playing great offense. A standard defensive battle should really be around 9 drives. But when you just cannot get a team off the field until they've driven deep into your own territory, your offense isn't going to ever get on the field. The defense allowing the Bucs into Chiefs territory on every drive yesterday is the worst stat to come out of that game. The offense led 2 sustained drives for scores. The offense put up 19 despite NO help from the D. The offense still wasn't good, but the defense was absolutely worse.
Why didn't the Chiefs offense make any long time consuming drives, and maybe even, god forbid, score more than 17 points? The Chiefs defense played like ass, but they still held the other team to 19 points. That should be enough to win if our offense wasn't a dumpster fire. Every now and then, the offense needs to win a game for us, instead of relying on the defense every damn game.
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Why didn't the Chiefs offense make any long time consuming drives, and maybe even, god forbid, score more than 17 points? The Chiefs defense played like ass, but they still held the other team to 19 points. That should be enough to win if our offense wasn't a dumpster fire. Every now and then, the offense needs to win a game for us, instead of relying on the defense every damn game.
Our offense wasn't a dumpster fire. 2.4 points per possession is above average.
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