Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters.

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Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7



https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I'm not definitively stating this as fact... only theory.

Now that KC actuaklly does have a pass pro OL and weapons, we have now narrowed down the offenses limitation to? .... yep... QB +/or playcaller.

My theory leans heavily to Andy's philosophy holding the offense back.. from a statistical point of view.

All Andy does is win. 4 winning seasons since he's been in KC.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Bowser

How many times over the last four years has the All-22 video and stills shown Alex completely missing wide open targets to take a check down? Hell, just this last week we saw Alex throw to a covered Maclin in the end zone with Kelce running free at the 5, and Demetrius Harris all by his lonesome on the sideline with nobody for 15 yards around him.

Film doesn't lie. Facts, not fiction.

Your point of view can be skewed. Take your own example. Was stated that the ball was already coming out before Kelce even finished his jerk move (looks like the proper route terminology from that still pic).

So the ball already coming out... and Kelce not yet bursting out of his last cut..

this is running free to you?

People, we're never to get anywhere if no honesty.

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Originally Posted by Bowser

How many times over the last four years has the All-22 video and stills shown Alex completely missing wide open targets to take a check down? Hell, just this last week we saw Alex throw to a covered Maclin in the end zone with Kelce running free at the 5, and Demetrius Harris all by his lonesome on the sideline with nobody for 15 yards around him.

Film doesn't lie. Facts, not fiction.

You know more than the players/coaches apparently? Maclin said himself the ball was coming to him but the defender didn't read the route, he completely GUESSED and got it right which gave him the inside position. The ball was delivered before the players finished their cuts.

You take 1 on 1 with Maclin if it's there. Kelce was coming out of his break and even shows some give up on the play when he see's two guys in his vicinity.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

All Andy does is win. 4 winning seasons since he's been in KC.

which is why I chose my words above and now below... very carefully.

Andy's philosophy holding the offense back.. from a statistical point of view.

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Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Your point of view can be skewed. Take your own example. Was stated that the ball was already coming out before Kelce even finished his jerk move (looks like the proper route terminology from that still pic).

So the ball already coming out... and Kelce not yet bursting out of his last cut..

this is running free to you?

People, we're never to get anywhere if no honesty.

BINGO.

DJLN mentioned the same thing earlier this week. We read it correctly and Maclin verified this later. Smith made the throw purely because it's his most trusted receiver and there was a one-on-one opportunity.

Lesson learned, give Smith more than these one read plays and don't put Harris out wide on the field while Tyreek is on the bench.

[CupidStunt]

When all is said and done, they will debate Reid for the Hall of Fame.

They will debate whether Alex is capable of helping with his kid's JV team.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

I'm not definitively stating this as fact... only theory.

Now that KC actuaklly does have a pass pro OL and weapons, we have now narrowed down the offenses limitation to? .... yep... QB +/or playcaller.

My theory leans heavily to Andy's philosophy holding the offense back.. from a statistical point of view.

The problem with this statement is that Alex is free to audible, which he does on a pretty regular basis. Either he audibles to the wrong play, or his selection of audibles suck.

It goes back to this - this is year 4 of Andy and Alex together. We have more targets on offense than ever before, and they can't get it moving collectively. Playcalling and QB play have both fallen off hard this season, so maybe Pederson leaving had a far bigger impact than anyone could have anticipated, but even that said, Andy and Alex have both been doing this a long, long time. Under no circumstances should Alex be outperformed by the likes of Marcus Mariota and Trevor Semen.

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If the only argument you have against Smith is that he won't be hall of fame, you have opened up a discussion no one else is partaking in.


Keep moving those goal posts to make yourself feel better, kid.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

Your point of view can be skewed. Take your own example. Was stated that the ball was already coming out before Kelce even finished his jerk move (looks like the proper route terminology from that still pic).

So the ball already coming out... and Kelce not yet bursting out of his last cut..

this is running free to you?

People, we're never to get anywhere if no honesty.

Yeah, it really is. Ever heard of anticipation from a quarterback before? Knowing how to read a defense and not just throwing to a spot? Or God forbid, Alex actually throwing a receiver open?

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Originally Posted by Bowser

The problem with this statement is that Alex is free to audible, which he does on a pretty regular basis. Either he audibles to the wrong play, or his selection of audibles suck.

It goes back to this - this is year 4 of Andy and Alex together. We have more targets on offense than ever before, and they can't get it moving collectively. Playcalling and QB play have both fallen off hard this season, so maybe Pederson leaving had a far bigger impact than anyone could have anticipated, but even that said, Andy and Alex have both been doing this a long, long time. Under no circumstances should Alex be outperformed by the likes of Marcus Mariota and Trevor Semen.

It's not the wrong play. They had things in their favor, the defender just made a complete guess. Maclin is a real competitor and gives credit where it belong...but the defender completely lucked out.

Maclin is back, and he played a productive game 75% reception rate with over 80 yards on just 6 receptions. I like where our team is headed and for once seems decently healthy. It's the run defense that worries me the most down the stretch. If that gets shored up, we can go toe-to-toe with ANY team in the playoff race.

[CupidStunt]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

If the only argument you have against Smith is that he won't be hall of fame, you have opened up a discussion no one else is partaking in.

True, Reid is many, many levels above Alex Whiff. Like, it's not even fair. My bad. I should stop comparing apples to oranges. Gotta keep the playing field even.

So Alex Smith or Trent Dilfer? Who's better to teach the kids about QB play?

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Keep moving those goal posts to make yourself feel better, kid.

I'm 30. Is that young? Are you younger? If so, guess you need a new line. If you're older ... well, I feel bad for you for so many reasons.

[CupidStunt]

By the way, you're gonna break your mouse with all this extra clicking.

You know, to not ignore the poster you're ignoring.

Heh.

Heh heh.

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Yeah, it really is. Ever heard of anticipation from a quarterback before? Knowing how to read a defense and not just throwing to a spot? Or God forbid, Alex actually throwing a receiver open?

You're posting this comment after hearing the facts. You can bitch all you want about Smith but this last game was another team loss and one that Andy completely messed up on several levels.

It's up to you if ya want to be part of the low-lifes like Cupid and Pest who just want to throw blame on Smith for everything but I know you're way above that.

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Until you provide decent conversation, you are a kid to me.

[The Franchise]

.....I'm just throwing blame on Smith. Completely ignore the credit I've given him for the 3 games before that.