NFL Rumors: Mahomes, Watson atop KC's QB wish list

[-King-]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I heard a great analogy for these QBs this morning.

The thinking was that with most of the QBs such as Trubisky or Watson, you were probably sure to have a B+ to C- level QB. With Mahomes, you're looking at probably an A or an F. It's the ultimate gamble. Go big or go home.

Most times, I wouldn't advocate such a pick in the first round. But if you are the Chiefs right now, with a nearly filled roster that could play today if they had to, why wouldn't you roll the dice? They know they need a QBOTF and they know that Mahomes wouldn't have to play for 1-2 years. It's the perfect storm for both the organization and player IMO.

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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I'm shocked.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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Given that ALL QBs have the potential to become Fs, shouldn't you care MORE about which QB has the likeliest chance of reaching the upper levels of his potential?

There ARE no B+ or C QBs. As soon as you think you have one, they're massive ****ing failures.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

Given that ALL QBs have the potential to become Fs, shouldn't you care MORE about which QB has the likeliest chance of reaching the upper levels of his potential?

There ARE no B+ or C QBs. As soon as you think you have one, they're massive ****ing failures.

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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[New World Order]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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We have a 'c' quarterback. His name is Ass

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2) is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.

[notorious]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2)is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.

Sigh.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by BossChief

That's a stupid analogy.

The ultimate goal isn't to just get 700-850000 dollars, it's to have a QB worth enough on his own that you have a chance to win the Super Bowl with him.

Alex Smith is that 700000-850000 type QB that gets a team into QB purgatory.

This QB class is a gift from the gods to help us out of that funk.

Mahomes sitting behind Alex for a year (maybe 2) is our best chance at having the QB situation solved for the next decade.

How is it a stupid analogy? If you needed a million dollar QB to win Superbowls why does Aaron Rodgers only have one almost a decade ago? Why have Manning and Wilson won it in recent years?
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[RunKC]

Originally Posted by -King-

How is it a stupid analogy? If you needed a million dollar QB to win Superbowls why does Aaron Rodgers only have one almost a decade ago? Why have Manning and Wilson won it in recent years?
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Bc they had great QB's AND and a lgreat team overall. Do you even realize how god awful the Packers were and have been the last few years?

Rodgers carried an 8-8 caliber team to the NFCCG.

[-King-]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Bc they had great QB's AND and great team overall. Do you even realize how god awful the Packers were and have been the last few years?

Rodgers took an 8-8 caliber team to the NFCCG.

How are the Packers awful? Their defense is below average but offense is full of weapons. And I thought elite QBs were able to get past deficiencies in the team?

The same people who blame Smith because he needs everything perfect around him are the same people who blame the Packers because they aren't perfect around Rodgers. It's ironic huh?
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[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.



It's like if you have 2 choices:



A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing



B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed



Any rational person takes B right?



Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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Option B isn't 750k or 800k. It's 750k, 800k, OR a big fat 0.

Just like option A.

And you have to consider if you're more likely to receive 1,000,000 from option A than you are 750 or 800k from option B.

I totally see that happening with a lot of QBs in this class. I think it's more likely that Mahomes, Kizer, and Trubisky will be studs than Peterman will be a negligible Kyle Orton type starter in the league.

[Shag]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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The only way this analogy makes any sense at all is if it's in a scenario where if you don't get $1M, you lose your house, all your positions, and end up homeless. The bank is going to take any amount you have to settle your debt, so it's just a matter of keeping your house/possessions.

Sure, you can take the $700k and hope a miracle happens at the casino to save your house. Or, you can take the shot at the million, knowing that unless you can save your house, the $700k is meaningless.

Apparently, you're okay with making the playoffs, then one and done. Most of us aren't, and want a shot at a championship. If it blows up, so what - try again until you hit.

[ct]

Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah, so I'd take the QB likeliest to give me as close to a consistent A level of play as possible.

It's like if you have 2 choices:

A) I either give you a million dollars or I give you nothing

B) I give you between 700,000 to 850,000 guaranteed

Any rational person takes B right?

Yes Mahomes could end up great, but he could also end up as the next Brock Osweiler. I don't get why anyone would want such a volatile QB.
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This is precisely the rationale people associate with the Hunts. Option B keeps teams competitive, fills the seats, and makes them profit. Option A wins super bowls, or gets GMs/HC's fired.

It's all about your goals.

[ct]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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congrats, you already have one, #11 Alex Smith

go for the win here chiefs, we have the ammo to move up if mahomes is sitting there in the teens. may not even hurt our draft that much either.

pull the trigger and do it!

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by -King-

I'd rather have a QB that's either a B+ or C- than one that's either an A or F. It's not even a question.
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