DJ still expects to be ready for camp

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Was this the same achilles as before or was this the other one? I don't recall.

If he comes back at 90 percent he'll still be a top-ten ILB. I hope he stays healthy because we'll need him to help carry Andy Reid off the field after the Super Bowl.

No he won't.

He probably wasn't a top 10 ILB last season. 90% of that means he's not a starting caliber player anymore.

DJ got a lot of latitude due to the goodwill he's built up in KC (deservedly so) but his play fell off markedly last season. He was simply not the athlete he used to be and I'd be shocked if he's ready to play by week 6 and even more surprised if he's all that effective when he does come back.

That achilles simply won't bounce back to its former elasticity. He's not going to have full range of motion in is feet/ankles and his explosion will be compromised. I don't have high hopes for our boy...

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

No he won't.

He probably wasn't a top 10 ILB last season. 90% of that means he's not a starting caliber player anymore.

DJ got a lot of latitude due to the goodwill he's built up in KC (deservedly so) but his play fell off markedly last season. He was simply not the athlete he used to be and I'd be shocked if he's ready to play by week 6 and even more surprised if he's all that effective when he does come back.

That achilles simply won't bounce back to its former elasticity. He's not going to have full range of motion in is feet/ankles and his explosion will be compromised. I don't have high hopes for our boy...

Johnson optimistically said he will be ready for camp in April, and he is not backing down a month later. "I'm on track, just like last time," Johnson said. "I never want to put a date on when I'm going to be 100 percent. But will I be at camp? I can say that, yeah."

DJ completely disagrees with you.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Johnson optimistically said he will be ready for camp in April, and he is not backing down a month later. "I'm on track, just like last time," Johnson said. "I never want to put a date on when I'm going to be 100 percent. But will I be at camp? I can say that, yeah."

DJ completely disagrees with you.

Yeah, because aging athletes never have unrealistic expectations of their own abilities.

You can't really be serious here. These guys have never really known failure and selection bias favors healthy players playing late into their careers. By and large, the guys that even make the league are guys that managed to stay damn healthy longer than most.

They aren't doctors, they aren't even trainers. The least reliable narrator in that room is ALWAYS the injured player. They always believe they're going to bounce back 100% (at least publicly). Bouncing back and being productive is all they've ever known so of course that's what they're going to expect to happen yet again. Sadly, they have to get beat over the head with their athletic mortality before they come to understand otherwise.

Derrick Johnson is a soon to be 35 year old LBer who has a ton of games on the odometer and was slowing down significantly BEFORE he suffered one of the worst injuries an older athlete can suffer. Seriously, you're completely insane if you're just going to take his standard old 'proud warrior' proclamations at face value.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, because aging athletes never have unrealistic expectations of their own abilities.

You can't really be serious here. These guys have never really known failure and selection bias favors healthy players playing late into their careers. By and large, the guys that even make the league are guys that managed to stay damn healthy longer than most.

They aren't doctors, they aren't even trainers. The least reliable narrator in that room is ALWAYS the injured player. They always believe they're going to bounce back 100% (at least publicly). Bouncing back and being productive is all they've ever known so of course that's what they're going to expect to happen yet again. Sadly, they have to get beat over the head with their athletic mortality before they come to understand otherwise.

Derrick Johnson is a soon to be 35 year old LBer who has a ton of games on the odometer and was slowing down significantly BEFORE he suffered one of the worst injuries an older athlete can suffer. Seriously, you're completely insane if you're just going to take his standard old 'proud warrior' proclamations at face value.

Jeez you act like he was some scrub before he got hurt and now DJ should just retire or even amputate Both legs.

And Yes- I do take what DJ says at face value. He once said he would make sure the Boys and Girls club in my neighborhood had new equipment for the kids. He personally made it happen and was there to spend the whole day installing it with us. His word is Gold in my opinion.

It is HIS body, HIS career and HE says he will be at camp- not once, but twice now. I will take HIS word over a posters on CP every time.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Jeez you act like he was some scrub before he got hurt and now DJ should just retire or even amputate Both legs.

And Yes- I do take what DJ says at face value. He once said he would make sure the Boys and Girls club in my neighborhood had new equipment for the kids. He personally made it happen and was there to spend the whole day installing it with us. His word is Gold in my opinion.

It is HIS body, HIS career and HE says he will be at camp- not once, but twice now. I will take HIS word over a posters on CP every time.

Ah. So he's a nice guy and because of that you're going to ignore history.

Got it. It's a personal thing and not based on reality or reason.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ah. So he's a nice guy and because of that you're going to ignore history.

Got it. It's a personal thing and not based on reality or reason.

I guess we will find out if DJ is Full of Shit as posted on here- when he shows up for training camp- just like he said he would.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

I guess we will find out if DJ is Full of Shit as posted on here- when he shows up for training camp- just like he said he would.

Who the hell cares about 'showing up to camp?'

I said 'ready to play' and 'be effective'.

Jamaal Charles showed up to camp last year. Fat lot of ****ing good that did us.

Christ, listen to you carp and wail like his mother because someone dares question how realistic an athlete is about his health because he gave you some park equipment. Please, try to sound like a bigger **** right now, I'm pretty sure you can't manage it.