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Old 02-26-2018, 04:24 PM   #1
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Bring on the youth movement. If you are going to do it, don't do it half-assed.
I’ve said it before and I guess I’ll keep saying it.

In a capped sport it’s about efficiency rather than youth or whatever other metric. It’s about production per unit payroll. Parker was a guy that fit that mold. We got a lot of production or of him especially early on and he wasn’t necessarily young.

It’s not good to have the whole damn team be 23-25. Then their contracts all come up at the same time and you’re starting the **** over. A team needs a balance of guys and for them to not get bunched up to have consistent sustainable success.

All that stems from good personnel decisions and avoiding the hard busts both with draft equity and free agent payroll.

But yeah. A full on fire everybody youth movement isn’t as productive as you’d think. Good teams have middle tier free agent acquisitions that are efficient payroll dollars.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:32 PM   #2
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I’ve said it before and I guess I’ll keep saying it.

In a capped sport it’s about efficiency rather than youth or whatever other metric. It’s about production per unit payroll. Parker was a guy that fit that mold. We got a lot of production or of him especially early on and he wasn’t necessarily young.

It’s not good to have the whole damn team be 23-25. Then their contracts all come up at the same time and you’re starting the **** over. A team needs a balance of guys and for them to not get bunched up to have consistent sustainable success.

All that stems from good personnel decisions and avoiding the hard busts both with draft equity and free agent payroll.

But yeah. A full on fire everybody youth movement isn’t as productive as you’d think. Good teams have middle tier free agent acquisitions that are efficient payroll dollars.
Moves like this will allow us to do just that this offseason and next.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:33 PM   #3
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I’ve said it before and I guess I’ll keep saying it.

In a capped sport it’s about efficiency rather than youth or whatever other metric. It’s about production per unit payroll. Parker was a guy that fit that mold. We got a lot of production or of him especially early on and he wasn’t necessarily young.

It’s not good to have the whole damn team be 23-25. Then their contracts all come up at the same time and you’re starting the **** over. A team needs a balance of guys and for them to not get bunched up to have consistent sustainable success.

All that stems from good personnel decisions and avoiding the hard busts both with draft equity and free agent payroll.

But yeah. A full on fire everybody youth movement isn’t as productive as you’d think. Good teams have middle tier free agent acquisitions that are efficient payroll dollars.
Well, we'll have Jones ,KPass and Houston up front. we'll have Ragland, Eligewe and probably KPL at LB. We'll have Berry, Fuller and maybe Sorenson in the backfield. So hitting on 3 draft picks on Defense every year is a good way to keep supplied. Stay young and fast. Bring in two DL in FA and we have to draft that damn punter from Texas with our 3rd.

Offense we just need a LG and a QB behind Mahomes and we're good there.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:44 PM   #4
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Well, we'll have Jones ,KPass and Houston up front. we'll have Ragland, Eligewe and probably KPL at LB. We'll have Berry, Fuller and maybe Sorenson in the backfield. So hitting on 3 draft picks on Defense every year is a good way to keep supplied. Stay young and fast. Bring in two DL in FA and we have to draft that damn punter from Texas with our 3rd.

Offense we just need a LG and a QB behind Mahomes and we're good there.
That list of names is hard to get excited about. Jones and Berry will be coming off injuries, and Elegwe and Kpass barely saw the field last season. Sorenson is no better than a 3rd/4th safety at best.

Veach will need to be strategic, but aggressive in Free Agency if KC plans on not taking a large step back next season. I believe the offense needs more than just a LG and a backup QB. I would add a veteran WR to the list (they were able to get away with a young WR Corp last season with a veteran QB) and a proven #2 TE along with that LG. Defense is in complete overhaul mode.
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Old 02-26-2018, 09:36 PM   #5
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That list of names is hard to get excited about. Jones and Berry will be coming off injuries, and Elegwe and Kpass barely saw the field last season. Sorenson is no better than a 3rd/4th safety at best.

Veach will need to be strategic, but aggressive in Free Agency if KC plans on not taking a large step back next season. I believe the offense needs more than just a LG and a backup QB. I would add a veteran WR to the list (they were able to get away with a young WR Corp last season with a veteran QB) and a proven #2 TE along with that LG. Defense is in complete overhaul mode.
You are spot on Big Dog !!
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:14 PM   #6
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The question I have is, how many teams who have built a young defense in the offseason, has managed to make a deep run In the playoffs? Is there a particular team who has done this in recent years?
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Old 02-26-2018, 05:01 PM   #7
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The question I have is, how many teams who have built a young defense in the offseason, has managed to make a deep run In the playoffs? Is there a particular team who has done this in recent years?
We haven't made a "deep run" since 1993. And this group sure wasn't going to do it

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Old 02-26-2018, 04:16 PM   #8
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We need to keep Sorenson. Also dropping Parker gives us space to bring in Manziel.
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We need to keep Sorenson.
No we do not. Sorenson has no instinct thus always plays a step behind and this is even in his natural position as if he actually has a natural position in the 2ndary. When he pulled up on AB and did not lay him out in that Pitt game encapsulated who is as a player. He is a back up at best and couldn't break into any other starting line up in the NFL except for us and that is only because he is Mormon.

Guy needs to go we need another true headhunter to assist EB, PERIOD !!

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Old 02-26-2018, 04:32 PM   #10
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A youth movement has its time and place. I'm not sure the year you start your inexperienced top 10 QB is the best. More bad than good if a young guy has to drop back a lot to play catch up.
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I'm all in for the youth movement, but why are we keeping that fuccboi Bob Sutton around to run it on the field?
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:37 PM   #12
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I'm all in for the youth movement, but why are we keeping that fuccboi Bob Sutton around to run it on the field?
So we can draft higher and get better players for the next regime?
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:36 PM   #13
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I want to see Ron Parker hug his new head coach. I bet his hugs are just chest bumps though...he was never known for wrapping up.
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I'm a fan of this move. Also makes me wonder if Sutton is under pressure to run a bigger, tougher defense. Which makes me also wonder if he'll reconsider running Dime.
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Old 02-26-2018, 04:39 PM   #15
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This team had maybe the worst safety play in the NFL this past season. Jettison all participants not named after a fruit.
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