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Old 08-10-2018, 11:42 PM   #1
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That's dangerously false.

Keto diets are dumb and unsustainable.
Always makes laugh how people are so protective of their carbs.

We've been told to eliminate fats for the last 40+ years and instead eat more breads, pasta and rice (just look at the food pyramid)... look how that has worked out.

For the OP I can only give you my experience I have done a low carb eating plan for the last 18 weeks combined with intermittent fasting, and it has helped me lose a lot of weight and I no longer suffer from bloating.

My only carbs are from vegetables and nuts so it is not about eliminating carbs its about cutting out or down the beige (Bread)and white (sugar) carbs. I disagree that carbs are not essential because to me fibre important for gut health so green carbs are important to me any.

I eat strategic carb days every 2 weeks and have cheats meals like anyone else.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:47 PM   #2
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Always makes laugh how people are so protective of their carbs.

We've been told to eliminate fats for the last 40+ years and instead eat more breads, pasta and rice (just look at the food pyramid)... look how that has worked out.

For the OP I can only give you my experience I have done a low carb eating plan for the last 18 weeks combined with intermittent fasting, and it has helped me lose a lot of weight and I no longer suffer from bloating.

My only carbs are from vegetables and nuts so it is not about eliminating carbs its about cutting out or down the beige (Bread)and white (sugar) carbs. I disagree that carbs are not essential because to me fibre important for gut health so green carbs are important to me any.

I eat strategic carb days every 2 weeks and have cheats meals like anyone else.
Spot on. Yeah I should not have stated it as I did. On my diet I eat a big salad as part of my meal which of course contains some carbs BUT the carbs themselves are not essential. Just the nutrients you get with the veggies.
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Old 08-10-2018, 11:59 PM   #3
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Always makes laugh how people are so protective of their carbs.

We've been told to eliminate fats for the last 40+ years and instead eat more breads, pasta and rice (just look at the food pyramid)... look how that has worked out.

For the OP I can only give you my experience I have done a low carb eating plan for the last 18 weeks combined with intermittent fasting, and it has helped me lose a lot of weight and I no longer suffer from bloating.

My only carbs are from vegetables and nuts so it is not about eliminating carbs its about cutting out or down the beige (Bread)and white (sugar) carbs. I disagree that carbs are not essential because to me fibre important for gut health so green carbs are important to me any.

I eat strategic carb days every 2 weeks and have cheats meals like anyone else.
Sure. Again, for overweight people with little to no exercise, cutting carbs can absolutely be beneficial. But for most, drastically cutting carbs can have very different consequences regarding hormone balance, metabolism, etc. It also depends a lot on the type of carbs.

What works for you isn't necessary what works for most.
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Old 08-11-2018, 12:36 AM   #4
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Sure. Again, for overweight people with little to no exercise, cutting carbs can absolutely be beneficial. But for most, drastically cutting carbs can have very different consequences regarding hormone balance, metabolism, etc. It also depends a lot on the type of carbs.

What works for you isn't necessary what works for most.
I agree, the problem is so much information out there that conflicts. Low fat, keto, vegan etc what you normally find at the end is someone trying to sell you something.

I do think people need to be open minded, If I wasn't I would never have tried fasting and low carb.
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Old 08-11-2018, 12:44 AM   #5
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I agree, the problem is so much information out there that conflicts. Low fat, keto, vegan etc what you normally find at the end is someone trying to sell you something.

I do think people need to be open minded, If I wasn't I would never have tried fasting and low carb.
I would recommend looking at scientific info from people that aren't trying to sell you a remedy for it. For instance, "Dr." Berg above has his own entire subdomain for selling his keto BS: https://shop.drberg.com/keto-combo-regular

The scientists from the studies I listed above don't have hundreds of items to sell you.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to discourage healthy practices. Low carb absolutely does have benefits for some. But portraying it as an inflammation cure all just isn't honest in my opinion.
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Old 08-11-2018, 04:17 PM   #6
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I would recommend looking at scientific info from people that aren't trying to sell you a remedy for it. For instance, "Dr." Berg above has his own entire subdomain for selling his keto BS: https://shop.drberg.com/keto-combo-regular

The scientists from the studies I listed above don't have hundreds of items to sell you.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to discourage healthy practices. Low carb absolutely does have benefits for some. But portraying it as an inflammation cure all just isn't honest in my opinion.
Of course you would because parade around here like DR. ****ing Science and everyone else is stupid. This just in everyone in the health industry is trying to make a buck and most scientific reports in health are done by scientists owned by big pharm with an agenda.

This is terrible advise. The massive majority in this country with rare exception will benefit dramatically from a low carb diet. Considering the average American eats WAYYYY too many carbs and the source of those carbs is generally processed sugar and food it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the benefits here. I don't think anyone said it was a cure all because nothing is. Sugar is the #1 food factor contributing to inflammation.
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Old 08-11-2018, 06:33 AM   #7
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Sure. Again, for overweight people with little to no exercise, cutting carbs can absolutely be beneficial. But for most, drastically cutting carbs can have very different consequences regarding hormone balance, metabolism, etc. It also depends a lot on the type of carbs.

What works for you isn't necessary what works for most.
Yep, if you sit on your ass for a job then cutting carbs isn’t a big deal.


If you are active and physically work for a living it’s a little different.

Find balance. That’s always been the key.
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