Chiefs Score immediately vs. run clock

**DaFace** · 11-19-2018, 11:21 PM

I don't think this is egregious clock management, but...

1st and goal on the 10 yard line. Down by 3 (44-47). 2:50 on the clock. Chiefs have 3 timeouts. Rams have none.

Am I crazy to think we should have run Kareem a couple times there? I know the Rams scored in 45 seconds on the next drive, but it sure feels like that would have put a lot of pressure on them to score, and I'm pretty confident we could have gotten in for the TD even if we just ran it 4 times.

Discus.

**petegz28** · 11-19-2018, 11:24 PM

You can't assume you will get the TD. I know it always sounds good but when you are trailing you score and expect your defense to hold a team out of the end zone for one drive.

Red Dawg · 11-19-2018, 11:24 PM

We should have. Thats twice now we screwed ourselves leaving time on the clock. Does Andy see our defense. They stink so bad you cant expect them to stop anyone with the game on the line.

chiefzilla1501 · 11-19-2018, 11:32 PM

Have no issue whatsoever going for touchdowns. They don't fall from trees. Weve had too many Alex Smith games where we settled for safe scores instead of going for the throat. If our defense can't hold serve on a 4 pt lead that's on them.

mr. tegu · 11-19-2018, 11:25 PM

They definitely should have ran it a few times. Ironically, even when giving us a hit to the helmet call on Harris the refs found a way to screw us. That shouldn’t have been a penalty. If that doesn’t happen it’s 2nd and 6 and we can run some clock and get the first down without scoring.

Pants · 11-19-2018, 11:28 PM

If anyone scored too fast, it was the Rams, IMO. We had that ball with 1:49 left on the clock and all 3 timeouts in the pocket. I felt very confident. I actually thought to myself that, for once, the other team "scored too fast."

Too bad we couldn't take advantage of it.

Sucks that Mahomes' arm got hit on that Peters INT.

TwistedChief · 11-20-2018, 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Pants

If anyone scored too fast, it was the Rams, IMO. We had that ball with 1:49 left on the clock and all 3 timeouts in the pocket. I felt very confident. I actually thought to myself that, for once, the other team "scored too fast."

This.

dj56dt58 · 11-20-2018, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

They definitely should have ran it a few times. Ironically, even when giving us a hit to the helmet call on Harris the refs found a way to screw us. That shouldn’t have been a penalty. If that doesn’t happen it’s 2nd and 6 and we can run some clock and get the first down without scoring.

They knew what they were doing..that's why they are the all star crew

Rasputin · 11-19-2018, 11:26 PM

We scored too soon

If we are so good on offense then we dictate the tempo of the game that's how you "manage" a game winning drive.

Why Not? · 11-19-2018, 11:26 PM

Nope. We got the ball back twice with opportunities to win or tie. That's exactly the position we realistically could have hoped to be in. The offense spit the bit. Just not quite good enough to win these types of games I guess, considering we've played in two and lost them both by the same margin

bobbything · 11-20-2018, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

Nope. We got the ball back twice with opportunities to win or tie. That's exactly the position we realistically could have hoped to be in. The offense spit the bit. Just not quite good enough to win these types of games I guess, considering we've played in two and lost them both by the same margin

The _efense wasn’t good (hell, they gave up a TD in one minute shortly thereafter) but we did get the ball back with 1:44 and three timeouts. Mahomes tossed a pick. It’s not like we didn’t have a chance.

ThaVirus · 11-19-2018, 11:26 PM

I like being aggressive and going for the TD.

We've lost two big games by not bleeding clock, so I suppose we should look into it.

Law of averages says the defense should be able to come up with a stop once in a while, but I don't trust this secondary against the elite QB we're likely to face in the postseason.

Chiefs4TheWin · 11-19-2018, 11:28 PM

I mean in an ideal world your defense should be able to stop someone. In our case that's just not true.

None the less you score when you score. too many things can go wrong in subsequent plays.

I do admit I was glad the rams scored quick on us though.

Rasputin · 11-19-2018, 11:31 PM

first team NFL history to lose after scoring 50 points

Because Chiefs

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 11-19-2018, 11:32 PM

The time to run clock was before the 1st and Goal. Unfortunately Robinson going out of bounds and the penalty ended up hurting us. There was too much time once it was 1st and Goal.... wouldn't have been able to run much more off (needed 2 plays just to get to the 2-minute warning). At that point you have to give yourself the best chance to score a TD.

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11-19-2018, 11:21 PM	Topic Starter
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $-1913101	Score immediately vs. run clock I don't think this is egregious clock management, but... 1st and goal on the 10 yard line. Down by 3 (44-47). 2:50 on the clock. Chiefs have 3 timeouts. Rams have none. Am I crazy to think we should have run Kareem a couple times there? I know the Rams scored in 45 seconds on the next drive, but it sure feels like that would have put a lot of pressure on them to score, and I'm pretty confident we could have gotten in for the TD even if we just ran it 4 times. Discus.
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11-19-2018, 11:24 PM	#2
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1135873	You can't assume you will get the TD. I know it always sounds good but when you are trailing you score and expect your defense to hold a team out of the end zone for one drive.
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11-19-2018, 11:24 PM	#3
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1202858	We should have. Thats twice now we screwed ourselves leaving time on the clock. Does Andy see our defense. They stink so bad you cant expect them to stop anyone with the game on the line. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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11-19-2018, 11:32 PM	#4
chiefzilla1501 In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2008 Casino cash: $-1795503	Have no issue whatsoever going for touchdowns. They don't fall from trees. Weve had too many Alex Smith games where we settled for safe scores instead of going for the throat. If our defense can't hold serve on a 4 pt lead that's on them.
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11-19-2018, 11:25 PM	#5
mr. tegu Forever Royal Join Date: Mar 2012 Casino cash: $-1928700	Score immediately vs. run clock They definitely should have ran it a few times. Ironically, even when giving us a hit to the helmet call on Harris the refs found a way to screw us. That shouldn’t have been a penalty. If that doesn’t happen it’s 2nd and 6 and we can run some clock and get the first down without scoring.
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11-19-2018, 11:28 PM	#6
Pants Time Keeps On Slipping Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Overland Park Casino cash: $3509900	If anyone scored too fast, it was the Rams, IMO. We had that ball with 1:49 left on the clock and all 3 timeouts in the pocket. I felt very confident. I actually thought to myself that, for once, the other team "scored too fast." Too bad we couldn't take advantage of it. Sucks that Mahomes' arm got hit on that Peters INT. __________________ "Turn the channel to 26!"
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11-19-2018, 11:26 PM	#9
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $15421	We scored too soon If we are so good on offense then we dictate the tempo of the game that's how you "manage" a game winning drive.
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11-19-2018, 11:26 PM	#10
Why Not? In Search of a Life Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $-721006	Nope. We got the ball back twice with opportunities to win or tie. That's exactly the position we realistically could have hoped to be in. The offense spit the bit. Just not quite good enough to win these types of games I guess, considering we've played in two and lost them both by the same margin
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11-19-2018, 11:26 PM	#12
ThaVirus Searching.. Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $-1857631	I like being aggressive and going for the TD. We've lost two big games by not bleeding clock, so I suppose we should look into it. Law of averages says the defense should be able to come up with a stop once in a while, but I don't trust this secondary against the elite QB we're likely to face in the postseason.
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11-19-2018, 11:28 PM	#13
Chiefs4TheWin Veteran Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Hollidaysburg, PA Casino cash: $1182783	I mean in an ideal world your defense should be able to stop someone. In our case that's just not true. None the less you score when you score. too many things can go wrong in subsequent plays. I do admit I was glad the rams scored quick on us though.
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11-19-2018, 11:31 PM	#14
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $15421	first team NFL history to lose after scoring 50 points Because Chiefs
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11-19-2018, 11:32 PM	#15
Rudy tossed tigger's salad Better than Nelson Join Date: Mar 2003 Casino cash: $10000400	The time to run clock was before the 1st and Goal. Unfortunately Robinson going out of bounds and the penalty ended up hurting us. There was too much time once it was 1st and Goal.... wouldn't have been able to run much more off (needed 2 plays just to get to the 2-minute warning). At that point you have to give yourself the best chance to score a TD.
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