Chiefs Perspective - Page 2

TwistedChief · 12-13-2018, 11:30 PM

The first thread I ever started was after the Patriots game and had the same title. This loss is infinitely more painful and I feel physically ill, but:

1/ We still control our own destiny.
2/ The entire mood on CP would be different had we gotten one simple stop on that last drive.
3/ We almost lost to the Ravens last week and pulled that out of nowhere. I viewed that as a gutsy win and still do. My guess is many of you now view that as a fluke-ish win simply because we lost by 1pt today.
4/ We still have Mahomes and he's still 23 and I'd rather be the Chiefs than any other team in the AFC heading into the playoffs.
5/ I won't let our history in prior years overwhelm me right now. I think things are different and the future can prove me wrong in the playoffs.
6/ We're 11-3. Pretty sure no one expected us to be here at this point in the season.
7/ Mahomes.

Water is wet and this defense is what we thought it was. I want to punch all the people in the face who were happy we didn't give up a draft pick or two to pick up some defensive help, and I'm not sure why Berry wasn't on the field the entire second half (maybe the telecast had an explanation?). But I'm not going to melt down as if this were a playoff game that completely destroyed any hope of our winning a Super Bowl this season.

I still believe this team is different.

ToxSocks · 12-13-2018, 11:43 PM

Perspective: Looks like an Andy Reid team that's slowing down at the end of the season.

Again.

Real talk.

TwistedChief · 12-13-2018, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Mahomes is the only thing different this year. It's been proven 3 times this year that it's most likely not enough.

Because we're not undefeated and have 3 losses by a total of 7 points?

There's been no team in recent history that's won a SB that hasn't had holes or some of these similar losses. It's not like we just didn't show up today.

BWillie · 12-13-2018, 11:46 PM

Our defense was actually pretty good - until the last two Charger drives. Part of that falls on defensive scheming

stevieray · 12-13-2018, 11:46 PM

The simple difference is Mahomes is young, as is most of the offense. They have time, not much, but time.

The Chiefs achilles heal is never fielding a complete team. One squad has ALWAYS had to carry the other. Until this changes, nothing will.

Veach found Mahomes, but he won't prove his worth till he drafts AND starts better defensive leaders/players on the back seven.

The playoffs will be about individual match ups, not past successes or failures.

KC_Connection · 12-13-2018, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

If we're favored there it will only be by 1 or 2 points.

I agree. Chiefs could lose the Seattle game (I doubt it, but it's a tough place to play), but the Chargers could also clearly lose either of their next two against teams playing for the playoff lives.

Reerun_KC · 12-13-2018, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Perspective... instead of sealing the deal tonight, the Chiefs now face a must win game in Seattle.

Just a massively blown opportunity.

Yep zero perspective.

We lost cause we’re cowards.

We’re behind LAC

jjjayb · 12-13-2018, 11:49 PM

Perspective: This defense is all time bad. Worse than 2003 Greg Robinson defense. Andy will never put his foot on the other teams throat when we have a lead. We are destined to keep games close that shouldn't be. We aren't winning shit in the post season.

BWillie · 12-13-2018, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I agree. Chiefs could lose the Seattle game (I doubt it, but it's a tough place to play), but the Chargers could also clearly lose either of their next two against teams playing for the playoff lives.

I would imagine the Chiefs will only be -1 or -2 at the very most in Seattle. Seattle is playing well right now and their losses have been close

FringeNC · 12-13-2018, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Because we're not undefeated and have 3 losses by a total of 7 points?

There's been no team in recent history that's won a SB that hasn't had holes or some of these similar losses. It's not like we just didn't show up today.

You're right -- we have a good of a chance as anyone does. Problem is with our weapons on offense and Pat Mahomes, every game against a decent team shouldn't be a coin flip. Bob Sutton has been absolutely dreadful in the playoffs, and this year's D is historically bad. You really think we will make it through the playoffs with the offense playing absolutely flawlessly every game? That's what it's going to take.

**The Franchise** · 12-14-2018, 12:12 AM

Perspective - the offensive line is ****ing trash.

**Rain Man** · 12-14-2018, 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I agree. Chiefs could lose the Seattle game (I doubt it, but it's a tough place to play), but the Chargers could also clearly lose either of their next two against teams playing for the playoff lives.

The Broncos will be dead by Week 17. Interestingly, we're going to be pinning our hopes on the Ravens to beat the Chargers.

RickObie · 12-14-2018, 12:20 AM

Perspective - this team is one of the best in the AFC - our big weakness is our defense but it’s been our weakness for years - Reid is a loyal person and we’ll soon find out if it costs us a Super Bowl appearance. If it does I truly believe he fires Sutton. If not then Reid may not ever find himself with a Lombardi trophy.

**Bowser** · 12-14-2018, 12:20 AM

This team is a perpetual one-and-done in the playoffs until Bob Sutton is fired. Prove me wrong.

TomBarndtsTwin · 12-14-2018, 12:25 AM

FYI: if Seattle beats the Niners on Sunday, they lock up the #5 seed and can do no better or no worse. So that might be a little bit of a saving grace for the Chiefs.

Seattle will basically be playing a pre-season game against the Chiefs (assuming they win Sunday) and have absolutely nothing to play for. Maybe they will rest some key starters?

ping2000 · 12-14-2018, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin

FYI: if Seattle beats the Niners on Sunday, they lock up the #5 seed and can do no better or no worse. So that might be a little bit of a saving grace for the Chiefs.

Seattle will basically be playing a pre-season game against the Chiefs (assuming they win Sunday) and have absolutely nothing to play for. Maybe they will rest some key starters?

Because Chiefs, no. They will run it up our soft ass defense.

12-13-2018, 11:30 PM
TwistedChief Why so serious? Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Chicago Casino cash: $-1389585	Perspective The first thread I ever started was after the Patriots game and had the same title. This loss is infinitely more painful and I feel physically ill, but: 1/ We still control our own destiny. 2/ The entire mood on CP would be different had we gotten one simple stop on that last drive. 3/ We almost lost to the Ravens last week and pulled that out of nowhere. I viewed that as a gutsy win and still do. My guess is many of you now view that as a fluke-ish win simply because we lost by 1pt today. 4/ We still have Mahomes and he's still 23 and I'd rather be the Chiefs than any other team in the AFC heading into the playoffs. 5/ I won't let our history in prior years overwhelm me right now. I think things are different and the future can prove me wrong in the playoffs. 6/ We're 11-3. Pretty sure no one expected us to be here at this point in the season. 7/ Mahomes. Water is wet and this defense is what we thought it was. I want to punch all the people in the face who were happy we didn't give up a draft pick or two to pick up some defensive help, and I'm not sure why Berry wasn't on the field the entire second half (maybe the telecast had an explanation?). But I'm not going to melt down as if this were a playoff game that completely destroyed any hope of our winning a Super Bowl this season. I still believe this team is different.
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12-13-2018, 11:43 PM	#16
ToxSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2063063	Perspective: Looks like an Andy Reid team that's slowing down at the end of the season. Again. Real talk. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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12-13-2018, 11:46 PM	#18
BWillie Are you ready to Rumble? Join Date: Apr 2006 Casino cash: $-1408759	Our defense was actually pretty good - until the last two Charger drives. Part of that falls on defensive scheming
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12-13-2018, 11:46 PM	#19
stevieray Most things I worry about… Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Under Pressure Casino cash: $-1264727	The simple difference is Mahomes is young, as is most of the offense. They have time, not much, but time. The Chiefs achilles heal is never fielding a complete team. One squad has ALWAYS had to carry the other. Until this changes, nothing will. Veach found Mahomes, but he won't prove his worth till he drafts AND starts better defensive leaders/players on the back seven. The playoffs will be about individual match ups, not past successes or failures.
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12-13-2018, 11:49 PM	#22
jjjayb MVP Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Back in K.C. baby!!!! Casino cash: $4433433	Perspective: This defense is all time bad. Worse than 2003 Greg Robinson defense. Andy will never put his foot on the other teams throat when we have a lead. We are destined to keep games close that shouldn't be. We aren't winning shit in the post season.
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12-14-2018, 12:12 AM	#25
The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	Perspective - the offensive line is ****ing trash.
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12-14-2018, 12:20 AM	#27
RickObie What the Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $2710620	Perspective - this team is one of the best in the AFC - our big weakness is our defense but it’s been our weakness for years - Reid is a loyal person and we’ll soon find out if it costs us a Super Bowl appearance. If it does I truly believe he fires Sutton. If not then Reid may not ever find himself with a Lombardi trophy.
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12-14-2018, 12:20 AM	#28
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $-158384	This team is a perpetual one-and-done in the playoffs until Bob Sutton is fired. Prove me wrong.
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12-14-2018, 12:25 AM	#29
TomBarndtsTwin MVP Join Date: Mar 2013 Casino cash: $2359883	FYI: if Seattle beats the Niners on Sunday, they lock up the #5 seed and can do no better or no worse. So that might be a little bit of a saving grace for the Chiefs. Seattle will basically be playing a pre-season game against the Chiefs (assuming they win Sunday) and have absolutely nothing to play for. Maybe they will rest some key starters?
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