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Old 12-23-2019, 11:29 AM   #11
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I've never understood why so many Mayfield stans are so quick to handwaive those turnover numbers.

Dude threw 14 picks last year in a partial season to boot.

The guy's a turnover machine. And he creates sacks far more often than people want to acknowledge (same thing Watson does; then people blame his OL because he's a mobile passer so they assume he's helping his OL - he ain't).

He's a talented quarterback but he has significant processing issues that lead to turnovers and sacks that a truly good quarterback doesn't have. And you can't quantify leadership, but I have a hard time seeing a dude who carries himself like Mayfield as any sort of leader. Yes, it's nebulous, but I don't really care. If you don't see what people are saying when they call Baker a frontrunning douche, then you're just not looking.
There's also a middle ground where the guy is limited but a lot better than what his critics say. Sometimes the critical approach is to assume a guy's 100% flawed. I don't think he's a great qb by any stretch but I don't see why at least early in his career he couldn't be an effective game manager.
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