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Old 02-27-2020, 02:14 PM   #1
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Lol yea your reasoning of why we should trade Jones is based on a tons of research while ours is 100% emotional based. Got it.

What a dumbass.
And yet here you are, with no objective reasoning other than "cuz I said so dumbass"
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:21 PM   #2
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And yet here you are, with no objective reasoning other than "cuz I said so dumbass"
I’ve already stated that I wanted to keep Jones because he’s the second best interior pass rusher in the league and he’s still young and acending.

What more needs to be said? Is that not “objective reasoning”? It has nothing to do with emotions and you all keep running with that narrative. Me calling you a dumbass for it isn’t proof either like you’re trying to make it out to be. It’s because it’s a lazy/awful take.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:25 PM   #3
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I’ve already stated that I wanted to keep Jones because he’s the second best interior pass rusher in the league and he’s still young and acending.

What more needs to be said? Is that not “objective reasoning”? It has nothing to do with emotions and you all keep running with that narrative. Me calling you a dumbass for it isn’t proof either like you’re trying to make it out to be. It’s because it’s a lazy/awful take.
No, dude. that's not objective reasoning.

I want to eat pizza every day because it's delicious and affordable.

Isn't that all that needs to be said? What else could possibly factor into it? Oh... long term health? I don't care about long term health! We're in "EAT NOW" mode.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:29 PM   #4
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No, dude. that's not objective reasoning.

I want to eat pizza every day because it's delicious and affordable.

Isn't that all that needs to be said? What else could possibly factor into it? Oh... long term health? I don't care about long term health! We're in "EAT NOW" mode.


What the ****? Now that’s not objective reasoning?

Anybody can get hurt dude. Whoever you pay with the money you save or use your draft picks on can get hurt too. They could also bust. This is so ****ing reeruned it’s unbelievable.

I guess signing Pat long term because he’s the best player in the NFL at the lost important postion isn’t “objective reasoning” either. Guess that means we have to consider trading him too.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:34 PM   #5
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What the ****? Now that’s not objective reasoning?

Anybody can get hurt dude. Whoever you pay with the money you save or use your draft picks on can get hurt too. They could also bust. This is so ****ing reeruned it’s unbelievable.

I guess signing Pat long term because he’s the best player in the NFL at the lost important postion isn’t “objective reasoning” either. Guess that means we have to consider trading him too.
Now you're being willfully stupid.
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:36 PM   #6
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Now you're being willfully stupid.
What exactly did I say that isn’t true?

Can they not get hurt too? Can they not bust?

You act like the risk doesn’t go both ways when it does. I’m not saying there isn’t risk in re-signing Jones.
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Now you're being willfully stupid.
Staylor is going full reerun.

MVPat was worth an estimated 5.5 wins last year.

Jones (not on list), less than 1.1.

My guess: 2020 R1 pick plus 3rd plus 2-3 FAs combined win shares > Jones' win share.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ffense-defense
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Old 02-27-2020, 02:48 PM   #8
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Staylor is going full reerun.

MVPat was worth an estimated 5.5 wins last year.

Jones (not on list), less than 1.1.

My guess: 2020 R1 pick plus 3rd plus 2-3 FAs combined win shares > Jones' win share.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ffense-defense
"Win share leaders" Dafuq?

This isn't baseball. What an arbitrary, crap stat.

Anyway, i'll always favor signing our own home grown players who've earned it.

I'm not diggin' the player Carousel that some of you prefer.
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Old 02-27-2020, 03:17 PM   #9
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Staylor is going full reerun.

MVPat was worth an estimated 5.5 wins last year.

Jones (not on list), less than 1.1.

My guess: 2020 R1 pick plus 3rd plus 2-3 FAs combined win shares > Jones' win share.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...ffense-defense
In no way was I saying that Jones’ value was close to Pat’s. Nor would he be paid like it.

I’m not going full reerun, you just missed the point entirely.

Jones is a great player and is young/ascending. He’s the second best interior pass rusher in the league and those guys are just as valuable as anything outside of a QB. That’s objective reasoning just like it is for Pat.

I get so much shit for calling you guys idiots, but your reading comprehension continually suggests I’m right. I often find myself having to explain things over and over on here when I’ve said it clearly before. It’s pathetic.
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