Chris Jones to be Franchised

[TheNoob]

The #Chiefs are going to franchise tag star DL Chris Jones, sources say. Not a surprise, but Kansas City views him in their long-term plans and hopes to get a deal done at some point. The window opens officially today.

— Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) February 27, 2020

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

No, simple-minded is listening to about a dozen actual researched reasons and rebutting with a facepalm emoji

Lol yea your reasoning of why we should trade Jones is based on a tons of research while ours is 100% emotional based. Got it.

What a dumbass.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

No, simple-minded is listening to about a dozen actual researched reasons and rebutting with a facepalm emoji

Your "research" is pathetic. We've told you morons countless ways to keep a stud in his prime, but you continue to post gibberish

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Lol yea your reasoning of why we should trade Jones is based on a tons of research while ours is 100% emotional based. Got it.

What a dumbass.

Amazing that even a title cant fix the scourge of our fanbase. Still pulling the woe is us can't make it work bullshit

[Kiimo]

You two should get a room of kleenex, emojis and chris jones 40 yard dash videos

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by staylor26

The irony.

Simple minded is thinking the only reason we want to keep Jones is because of our emotional ties.

It's simplistic thinking, because people like PGM think that the ONLY option is keep jones. DO IT VEACH.

It's incredibly myopic.

You keep acting like I'm saying you HAVE to trade Jones. You don't have to trade him. You can sign him to a massive contract. It's going to **** you in other ways. People act like signing Jones doesn't create huge problems. It does. But all they want to do is point out that trading him removes his talent from the team. Yes... I get that. It also injects talent at multiple other positions.

Keeping Jones is totally on the table. It can be done, but it WILL mean cutting other places. Most likely Watkins, LDT, and then letting Breeland and Fuller both walk. There are so many holes on this team to fill, and being maxed out cap-wise with another Jones contract will make it all the harder to fill.

I absolutely love the reverse logic that Veach can't POSSIBLY replace Jones with multiple high picks and cap space, but he ABSOLUTELY can replace Breeland, Fuller, Watkins, and LDT with no cap room and day three picks. It makes no sense.

Also, I'm not angry at you for wanting to keep Jones. You keep getting angry at me for pointing out the problems that creates and positing an alternative trade scenario.

So, yes... you're being emotional. I am not.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Lol yea your reasoning of why we should trade Jones is based on a tons of research while ours is 100% emotional based. Got it.

What a dumbass.

And yet here you are, with no objective reasoning other than "cuz I said so dumbass"

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

And yet here you are, with no objective reasoning other than "cuz I said so dumbass"

I’ve already stated that I wanted to keep Jones because he’s the second best interior pass rusher in the league and he’s still young and acending.

What more needs to be said? Is that not “objective reasoning”? It has nothing to do with emotions and you all keep running with that narrative. Me calling you a dumbass for it isn’t proof either like you’re trying to make it out to be. It’s because it’s a lazy/awful take.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

It's simplistic thinking, because people like PGM think that the ONLY option is keep jones. DO IT VEACH.

It's incredibly myopic.

You keep acting like I'm saying you HAVE to trade Jones. You don't have to trade him. You can sign him to a massive contract. It's going to **** you in other ways. People act like signing Jones doesn't create huge problems. It does. But all they want to do is point out that trading him removes his talent from the team. Yes... I get that. It also injects talent at multiple other positions.

Keeping Jones is totally on the table. It can be done, but it WILL mean cutting other places. Most likely Watkins, LDT, and then letting Breeland and Fuller both walk. There are so many holes on this team to fill, and being maxed out cap-wise with another Jones contract will make it all the harder to fill.

I absolutely love the reverse logic that Veach can't POSSIBLY replace Jones with multiple high picks and cap space, but he ABSOLUTELY can replace Breeland, Fuller, Watkins, and LDT with no cap room and day three picks. It makes no sense.

Also, I'm not angry at you for wanting to keep Jones. You keep getting angry at me for pointing out the problems that creates and positing an alternative trade scenario.

So, yes... you're being emotional. I am not.

Well, yeah, it's easier to replace a journey man CB, a CB that was converted to safety for 4 games, a guard that's always hurt or a WR that shows up for 5 games per year than a top 2 or 3 DT in his prime.

Is that really a question?

[O.city]

If you wanna tag and trade Jones, fine. I get it, I wouldn't necessarily do it but they have more info on it than we do.

But lets not white wash away how important and how good he is.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by O.city

Well, yeah, it's easier to replace a journey man CB, a CB that was converted to safety for 4 games, a guard that's always hurt or a WR that shows up for 5 games per year than a top 2 or 3 DT in his prime.

Is that really a question?

Stop being emotional man. You only want to keep Jones because of your EMOTIONS!!!!

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by staylor26

I’ve already stated that I wanted to keep Jones because he’s the second best interior pass rusher in the league and he’s still young and acending.

What more needs to be said? Is that not “objective reasoning”? It has nothing to do with emotions and you all keep running with that narrative. Me calling you a dumbass for it isn’t proof either like you’re trying to make it out to be. It’s because it’s a lazy/awful take.

No, dude. that's not objective reasoning.

I want to eat pizza every day because it's delicious and affordable.

Isn't that all that needs to be said? What else could possibly factor into it? Oh... long term health? I don't care about long term health! We're in "EAT NOW" mode.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

your reasoning seems to be based on emotional ties to Chris Jones.

It's very John Dorsey to overpay a defensive player and not manage the cap.

And I wildly disagree that Chris Jones' production is unreplaceable.

But this is differnt than Eric Berry, Derrick Johnson, and Tamba Hali. Jones is young and just hitting his prime. I'm still on the fence on this one. I agree that you let players walk and replace them with the draft. This one is a bit different, though. Usually, you do this with players who are starting the downside of their careers.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

No, dude. that's not objective reasoning.

I want to eat pizza every day because it's delicious and affordable.

Isn't that all that needs to be said? What else could possibly factor into it? Oh... long term health? I don't care about long term health! We're in "EAT NOW" mode.

What the ****? Now that’s not objective reasoning?

Anybody can get hurt dude. Whoever you pay with the money you save or use your draft picks on can get hurt too. They could also bust. This is so ****ing reeruned it’s unbelievable.

I guess signing Pat long term because he’s the best player in the NFL at the lost important postion isn’t “objective reasoning” either. Guess that means we have to consider trading him too.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by O.city

If you wanna tag and trade Jones, fine. I get it, I wouldn't necessarily do it but they have more info on it than we do.

But lets not white wash away how important and how good he is.

I feel the exact same way, but in the other direction. If you wanna tag and re-sign Jones, fine. I get it, I wouldn't necessarily do it but they have more info on it than we do.

But let's not white wash away how restricting that will be toward having a complete team.

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by staylor26

What the ****? Now that’s not objective reasoning?

Anybody can get hurt dude. Whoever you pay with the money you save or use your draft picks on can get hurt too. They could also bust. This is so ****ing reeruned it’s unbelievable.

I guess signing Pat long term because he’s the best player in the NFL at the lost important postion isn’t “objective reasoning” either. Guess that means we have to consider trading him too.

Now you're being willfully stupid.