***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

1. The tax rate in the UK is much higher, they're already used to having tons living on government cheddar.

2. The money gets deposited like in a week or two, chill.

3. If things are still bad next month they can do another round of stimulus, which I'm sure was the plan from the beginning.

That's only for direct deposit. Checks mailed out are looking at 20 weeks.


Also this quote from someone working in unemployment:

Um, I work for a state agency. My job is not UI related; however, I volunteered to help.

We are currently sitting at 200k open UI claims with less than 100 people to work those claims. We expect in two weeks our UI claims number will be over 1 million.

So please, tell me again how Americans are quickly accessing $2400 a month from our existing UI infrastructure.

To make matters worse, we have been told by the federal government that we cannot implement all of the new UI provisions until USDOL has provided us guidance, which has not happened.

Good luck, America

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by TLO

Take this for what it's worth

Dr. Stephen Smith on effectiveness of hydroxychloroquine: 'I think this is the beginning of the end of the pandemic'

https://www.foxnews.com/media/dr-ste...f-the-pandemic

Oddly enough yesterday the Governor of Michigan reversed her order of prohibiting the prescription of such.....

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by ljmhawk

2. problem is a lot of people can’t wait another week or 2. unemployment is taking forever for these people as well

That is their own damn fault, sorry.

What were these people going to do if they lost their job because of some other reason?

You live your life without a net you might break something when you fall.

[petegz28]

This is what I don't get about Cuomo and the Governor's in Nevada and Michigan. You're a patient on a ventilator with this shit and the doctors are telling you that you that they have done all they can and you are going to die. You ask about HCQ and then you get told "we can't give it to you because we don't know if it's safe". WTF?

[Pushead2]

I'm here in NYC and I'm doing my part by self-isolating as I don't want to be infected, trying to be there for my buddy who's battling this virus for over ten days and hoping that people are finally getting it.......then this happens.

What the ****? Literally, what the ****?

https://abc7ny.com/5230682/

SEE IT: Dozens of mourners in masks crowded a Brooklyn street for a funeral.

They flouted NYC's orders to maintain social distancing as the coronavirus pandemic worsens.https://t.co/AfyaZbHW87

— New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) April 2, 2020

[Kiimo]

What about all the health benefits that are tied to employment? It's almost like universal healthcare would be tremendously helpful for all the people suddenly without jobs.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

That is their own damn fault, sorry.

What were these people going to do if they lost their job because of some other reason?

You live your life without a net you might break something when you fall.

Sorry, you're wrong. Normally if a person loses their job they can get out and look for a new one. They can't do that right now for obvious reasons.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

That's only for direct deposit. Checks mailed out are looking at 20 weeks.

Get with the times, or get left behind.

It's really quite that simple.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

This is what I don't get about Cuomo and the Governor's in Nevada and Michigan. You're a patient on a ventilator with this shit and the doctors are telling you that you that they have done all they can and you are going to die. You ask about HCQ and then you get told "we can't give it to you because we don't know if it's safe". WTF?

That's not how it works.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

That is their own damn fault, sorry.

What were these people going to do if they lost their job because of some other reason?

You live your life without a net you might break something when you fall.

You are talking about like 50% of America, rising cost of living without the wages matching that has made a huge portion of our population paycheck to paycheck people.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Sorry, you're wrong. Normally if a person loses their job they can get out and look for a new one. They can't do that right now for obvious reasons.

So they can survive on the money they would have had saved while looking for a job.

Problem solved.

If you didn't have any money saved to live on while looking for another job, again, your own damn fault.

[ljmhawk]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

That is their own damn fault, sorry.

What were these people going to do if they lost their job because of some other reason?

You live your life without a net you might break something when you fall.

lol you sound like a prick. if they lost their job for another reason they could go out and get another job. guess what....places are closing down and not hiring. the world needs ditch diggers too, not everyone can have a nice little nest egg like you.

[Kiimo]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Get with the times, or get left behind.

It's really quite that simple.

Clearly people with no employment and confined to their house need to bootstrap themselves into paying rent or go back in time and set aside a pandemic nestegg

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Mecca

You are talking about like 50% of America, rising cost of living without the wages matching that has made a huge portion of our population paycheck to paycheck people.

I straight up don't believe 50% of America can't make rent/mortgage if they lose their job in a given month.

Don't believe it.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

So they can survive on the money they would have had saved while looking for a job.

Problem solved.

If you didn't have any money saved to live on while looking for another job, again, your own damn fault.

They'd also get unemployment which right now is looking to be delayed.