***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Monticore]

At this point we have as much hard evidence Tide pods are safe to eat.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Donger

All of it anecdotal. Do you know what that word means? And why I applied it to bigfoot sightings?

lmao

ok dong dong we get it we know why you are so anti-HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE

Don't worry he can't hurt you in this thread

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

That's not even what he was doing and some TwitterTard used that word to promote an agenda and you fell for it.

If Dick Vermeil said someone played 'particularly well' would that have the same meaning to you as Bill Belichick saying it?

Ultimately I think that entire exchange is much ado about nothing, but the idea that one persons restrained enthusiasm is the same as the next guys fails based on cursory inspection.

Dick Vermeil cries at fireflies. Bill Belichick could see some actually catch lightening in a jar and not take passing notice. Now I don't know where Fauci falls in that spectrum but I do think its fair to say he's been quiet reserved throughout this affair, no?

Trying to slap some dictionary definition on a throwaway verb use that's almost entirely context dependent is just kinda goofy.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I think you need to read the article a little more slowly then take it to DC.

Or maybe don't post crap from a partisan opinion show as evidence a drug works?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

You still maintain that he said 'this doesn't work' eh?

Hes saying there isnt enough data. Fine. What about the ICU doctors who have said it's not helping their sickest patients? I'll trust those folks over the calvary of posters on a message board who said this thing was the flu and only parrot what a certain politician said. Those people have continously proven themselves wrong in this thread.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Monticore

At this point we have as much hard evidence Tide pods are safe to eat.

See saying stuff like this is reeruned, and you feed people like this Donger.

Look what you have done.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

This is a question, actually:

So, you want people to start taking this base don anecdotal evidence, is that correct?

Here, I'll show you how it's done. My answer is no.

No, that is not a question, that is asking me to validate an assumption you made.

Again, Donger, go play your DC games with someone else.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

lmao

ok dong dong we get it we know why you are so anti-HYDROXYCHLOROQUINE

Don't worry he can't hurt you in this thread

I'm not anti-hydroxychloroquine at all. I hope it shows promise after a controlled trial.

But good point. The people promoting its use now all do have one thing in common.

[BleedingRed]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Hes saying there isnt enough data. Fine. What about the ICU doctors who have said it's not helping their sickest patients? I'll trust those folks over the calvary of posters on a message board who said this thing was the flu and only parrot what a certain politician said. Those people have continously proven themselves wrong in this thread.

Oh you read that NBC piece too? Did you also read the part were the doctors said that had they been given it sooner that they believed the outcome would have been different?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Or maybe don't post crap from a partisan opinion show as evidence a drug works?

Awwww, go cry about it in DC you ****ing baby.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm not anti-hydroxychloroquine at all. I hope it shows promise after a controlled trial.

But good point. The people promoting its use now all do have one thing in common.

This.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No, that is not a question, that is asking me to validate an assumption you made.

Again, Donger, go play your DC games with someone else.

You can tell by the question mark that it's a question, pete. Up to you to answer or not.

[eDave]

Let's all take a 15m TO. OK?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by BleedingRed

Oh you read that NBC piece too? Did you also read the part were the doctors said that had they been given it sooner that they believed the outcome would have been different?

it wasnt an NBC piece where I read it at. I see where you are going with this and all the nutty shit you've posted . Keep it to DC please.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by eDave

Let's all take a 15m TO. OK?

What does distance have to do with it?