NFL Draft *****2020 NFL DRAFT THREAD - NO SPOILERS***** - Page 171

Dante84 · 04:54 PM

Version 2020 - WORLD CHAMPION EDITION

We are now within 24 hours - Cincinnati is on the clock.

Let's ****ing do this.

Rules:
1. No spoiled picks in this thread, all weekend. This means that as tweets are leaking picks a few minutes before the selection is announced live, you don't post it in this thread (ex: embedded tweets), reference it in this thread (ex: Joe Slapdick says it's So and So to Green Bay) or hint at it (ex: "it's a RB!").

2. Don't be a dick.

Otherwise, have fun, talk shit, freak out and lose your goddamned minds. It's Draft Weekend. The hot takes in these threads are so funny. I'll also be starting player threads for each of our picks as they are made, with videos and notable stats/takes in the OP. Pure knee jerk gold to reference in the future.

Here is our current pick order:

Round 1: Pick No. 32: CLYDE EDWARDS-HELAIRE, RB, LSU
Round 2: Pick No. 63: WILLIE GAY, JR, LB, MISS. STATE
Round 3: Pick No. 96: LUCAS NIANG, OL, TCU
Round 4: Pick No. 138: L'JARIUS SNEED, DB, LA. TECH
Round 5: Pick No. 177: MIKE DANNA, DE, MICHIGAN
Round 6: No Picks
Round 7: Pick No. 237: THAKARIUS BOPETE KEYES, CB, Tulane

Here is a list of the prospects the Chiefs have shown interest in this year.

View the 2019 Draft thread here
View the 2018 Draft thread here
View the 2017 Draft thread here

Time to grind! pic.twitter.com/FGn916qBq1
— Kansas City Chiefs (@Chiefs) April 24, 2020

carcosa · 04-23-2020, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief

What the ever loving ****? A RB in the first round? You’ve got to be ****ing kidding me! There is no reason to take an RB in the first round. Jesus, an interior OL would have been a better choice than this shit. What the ever-lasting **** was Veach thinking? Can he not see what’s going on with the NFL?

Giant Waste of a draft choice.

shut up baby

carcosa · 04-23-2020, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief

Rep for the polar bear joke. I undoubtedly deserve it.

I realize it ultimately is just a game. And I realize we won the SB just a couple of months ago. But I see many, many times where what one expects to happen is not what really happens. and if Veach had been paying attention to what really happens, he would not have chosen an RB with any draft choice and its super frustrating to see that pick just wasted.

lol

Mecca · 04-23-2020, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief

You miss the point. I said that OL will be a better choice if you want to improve the run game. Sol if there isn’t an OL that’s worthy of a 1st round pick, choose a CB or an LB or an edge rusher or another position we need. Fine. Just don’t waste a first round pick on an RB.

Did you miss the big CB and WR run? Safety was about the only other real option.

carcosa · 04-23-2020, 10:40 PM

love too have a complete meltdown because the team that just won a super bowl took their BPA at 32

**MahiMike** · 04-23-2020, 10:40 PM

This is how you do it. Pick your choice of a position that hasn't been picked yet. Get the best player at the position. It's how I end up with kelce every year in fantasy.

TwistedChief · 04-23-2020, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief

Little bit younger but I don’t give a ****.

The evidence is clear: RBs don’t merit the attention that they did 30 years ago. You no longer need a first round RB. Handing the ball to an RB generally COSTS a team points. You can either look at the data and agree or you can make snide comments, but the fact is, Veach wasted this pick.

If you disagree, point to a RB in the last 15 years that had a positive Extra Points Added per carry. We would have been better off drafting a WR or another TE.

And before Patrick Mahomes, Big 12 QBs never amounted to anything in the NFL. Get outside of the box and trust the guy who just brought us a SB.

Kman34 · 04-23-2020, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief

What the ever loving ****? A RB in the first round? You’ve got to be ****ing kidding me! There is no reason to take an RB in the first round. Jesus, an interior OL would have been a better choice than this shit. What the ever-lasting **** was Veach thinking? Can he not see what’s going on with the NFL?

Giant Waste of a draft choice.

Boo Hoo.. The Chiefs will never make the Super Bowl.. Andy and Veach don’t know what they are doing... Andy is a horrible football coach... Boo Hoo..

JFC.. He’s a great player who will make us even greater on offense...

frozenchief · 04-23-2020, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Did you miss the big CB and WR run? Safety was about the only other real option.

Then take a safety. I don’t care. The evidence over the past decade plus shows that RBs COST points.

I’m a numbers/data/analytics guy. I read what computer crunching data means for current NFL games means. And they mean that you don’t take an RB in the first round.

Here’s Geoff Schwartz talking about why it is ludicrous to pay for an elite RB in today’s NFL:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/4/...ound-box-count

This was just a giant waste.

**BossChief** · 04-23-2020, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Reading up on him, he apparently has a good rating for breaking tackles. That matches the profile of what Andy likes.

Excellent contact balance.

Bienemy will get him to improve his pass blocking and this kids gonna be a STUD. Could have a per carry average similar to Charles.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Anyone that is bitching is weird to me, running game was our 1 offensive weakness.

The people bitching haven’t seen this kid play.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca

Did you miss the big CB and WR run? Safety was about the only other real option.

McKinney would be nice to have but look at the recent investment at safety. A 2 on Juan and a huge contract for Landlord.

Glyde Helaire is going to be fun to watch in this offense.

carcosa · 04-23-2020, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief

Then take a safety. I don’t care. The evidence over the past decade plus shows that RBs COST points.

I’m a numbers/data/analytics guy. I read what computer crunching data means for current NFL games means. And they mean that you don’t take an RB in the first round.

Here’s Geoff Schwartz talking about why it is ludicrous to pay for an elite RB in today’s NFL:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/4/...ound-box-count

This was just a giant waste.

calm down buddy

VAGOMO 4 LIFE! · 04-23-2020, 10:45 PM

He averaged I believe 6.34 yards a carry in college

frozenchief · 04-23-2020, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

And before Patrick Mahomes, Big 12 QBs never amounted to anything in the NFL. Get outside of the box and trust the guy who just brought us a SB.

It’s 2 separate data sets. What produces a quality QB in the NFL are skills that can be transferred to the NFL. Certain stats demonstrate those skills and Mahomes had those in abundance.

That, though, is different than how one analyzes different positions or groups. We had a great pass rush under Bob Sutton. But you know what? Pass rush does not win games. That used to be the case. it isn’t any longer. A better backfield is far more valuable than a better pass rush.

In the same way, RBs don’t win games any more. We have the best QB in the league, if not in league history. We should have such a lopsided run/pass balance that we can use UDFAs as RBs and save our draft choices for positions where we need them.

mr. tegu · 04-23-2020, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by frozenchief

Then take a safety. I don’t care. The evidence over the past decade plus shows that RBs COST points.

I’m a numbers/data/analytics guy. I read what computer crunching data means for current NFL games means. And they mean that you don’t take an RB in the first round.

Here’s Geoff Schwartz talking about why it is ludicrous to pay for an elite RB in today’s NFL:

https://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2020/4/...ound-box-count

This was just a giant waste.

They will hand the ball to him like five times a game at most. And that’s only because we are winning by four scores at the time.

**srvy** · 04-23-2020, 10:47 PM

Anyone have the feeling that Noah Igbinoghene would have been the pick till Miami took him at 30? Oh well doesn't matter Vikes would have taken him at 31. Veatch used most of the clock looking to trade or decide between Swift or Helaire.

frozenchief · 04-23-2020, 10:47 PM

It could be worse, though. I could have a photograph of my house on national TV that shows someone on the toilet:

https://fansided.com/2020/04/23/some...aft-questions/

04-22-2020, 06:04 PM
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