***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[lewdog]

EDavid is an honest and caring human. I mean that. You can disagree with him here but he’s a great person.

If I die, he’s getting all my Chief memorabilia.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by jdubya

Funny, here in NorCal a group of firefighters from a nearby department went to Vail on a ski weekend back then as well. If I recall they all tested positive when they returned. All were fine with little or no symptoms but had to quarantine before retuning to work but it would seem Vail was a jacked up place to go skiing last spring....

That's probably true for a lot of popular tourist destinations.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by lewdog

EDavid is an honest and caring human. I mean that. You can disagree with him here but he’s a great person.

If I die, he’s getting all my Chief memorabilia.

Blow me.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Just got signed up for 5 new project on the Virgin Islands. How’s Covid down there?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

EDavid is an honest and caring human. I mean that. You can disagree with him here but he’s a great person.

If I die, he’s getting all my Chief memorabilia.

In all seriousness how are you feeling today?

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by TLO

In all seriousness how are you feeling today?

Still no taste/smell.
Tired
No body aches or fever
Nasal congestion
Some mild chest tightness and dry cough

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Weird story.

Close friend of ours went skiing in Veil in early March before this starting getting crazy with 9 other guys. One of the guys on the trip is a big skier and big partier. They ski everyday, he can only ski half the time just gets exhausted, doesn't feel well. Goes to bed early every night, doesn't have any drinks or anything. Thinks he just has altitude sickness. My buddy is in the same hotel room with him for 6 nights. Does everything with him on the trip.

When trips over, this guy goes home and ends up testing positive for Covid the day he gets back. My buddy never had any symptoms, never got sick or anything.

Wondering now if he was just asymptomatic?

Our first case was identified very early in March. A guy who landed at DIA from Italy and rented a car up to Summit County and skied at both Keystone and Vail.

https://coloradosun.com/2020/03/05/c...ase-confirmed/

The first patient had recently returned to the United States from a trip to Italy, where more than 3,000 cases of COVID-19 have been confirmed. Polis said the man’s traveling companion in Italy had previously tested positive for the disease, but the patient didn’t know about his diagnosis until after he had been in Colorado for several days.

On Feb. 29, the man flew to Colorado, passing through Denver International Airport, before driving a rental car to Summit County. Polis said the man stayed with two friends and his fiancée at a condo in Keystone. He skied at Keystone and Vail resorts.

“He was asymptomatic at the time,” Polis said. “When he arrived here he was healthy.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Still no taste/smell.
Tired
No body aches or fever
Nasal congestion
Some mild chest tightness and dry cough

Besides the no taste/smell part - is it comparable to any other illness you've had in the past?

[eDave]

Originally Posted by TLO

Besides the no taste/smell part - is it comparable to any other illness you've had in the past?

Sounds like a normal Saturday morning to me.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by TLO

Besides the no taste/smell part - is it comparable to any other illness you've had in the past?

A cold but definitely more tired compared this that.

The no taste/smell, and I mean none, is just crazy. I can’t explain it.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by lewdog

A cold but definitely more tired compared this that.

The no taste/smell, and I mean none, is just crazy. I can’t explain it.

No bitter, sweet, salty, sour?

Or like no flavor when you eat something?

[O.city]

Case positive percent has plateaued so that could be that were peaking.

Dear lord hopefully

[Donger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Case positive percent has plateaued so that could be that were peaking.

Dear lord hopefully

Yep, and starting to drop for a few days in some of the harder hits areas.

Time to re-open!!

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Pants

No bitter, sweet, salty, sour?

Or like no flavor when you eat something?

ABSOLUTELY NO TASTE.

Nothing.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by lewdog

ABSOLUTELY NO TASTE.

Nothing.

Man, I'd be eating ass for breakfast, lunch, dinner, AND 4th meal.