***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[arrowheadnation]

Was sitting on the waiting bench at WalMart today and a lady and her daughter tried to enter without masks. The greeters/security stopped them and informed them they needed a mask. They said that they drove to this county because it did not agree to uphold the governor's mask mandate. The greeter then informed them that Walmart as a corporation has decided to require masks in all of its stores. She then tried to go into some diatribe about religion and the county attorney and at that point the security dude cut her off and told her to either get a mask or leave because she was holding up traffic into the store. She rattled off one last zinger about never shopping at Walmart again, grabbed her daughter by the hand, and off she went. I just sat there thinking, wow, I just saw a real live "Karen" in the wild.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by tk13

And I don't know where you get the "99 other cases" number.

I do.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pants

This would be incredible.

TLO posted a video of a doctor the other day saying very similar about only needing 20% or so for her immunity due to the nature of Covid vs other viruses. It was very interesting how he broke it down.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Pants

This would be incredible.

It's the one "herd immunity" theory that seems like it's got a CHANCE to be true. Let's hope so.

[Perineum Ripper]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15

Cancer and car accidents aren’t contagious.

Deaths in war aren’t contagious either, but nobody ever says that when comparing deaths from COVID and war. People lose their minds if COVID is compared to flu, cancer, heart disease, or anything else. Weirdly those same people are quiet when war is used as a comparison

[Donger]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's the one "herd immunity" theory that seems like it's got a CHANCE to be true. Let's hope so.

If the CDC estimate is correct, we should be there now, more or less.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Donger

If the CDC estimate is correct, we should be there now, more or less.

The tricky thing is that the level likely varies by area (depending on what other coronaviruses have been through the community), so using a blanket, national figure won't tell us much. And it still would mean that a lot more people will have to die before things stabilize since there are areas that have been hit harder than others.

It is interesting to note that there aren't a lot of examples of small areas that have been hit twice. That's what gives me hope.

[O.city]

Once it really gets rolling there will be overshot of the percentage which is what you’ve hopefully got in some of theee areas

Hopefully we’ll get lucky

[O.city]

https://www.bioworld.com/articles/47...id-19-immunity

[Kidd Lex]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/19/polit...ess/index.html

Guess the $600 unemployment benefits simply being extended wasn’t a no brainer after all. I got roasted for pointing this out weeks ago. Here’s to hoping the government extends the benefits while also incentivizing those that go back to work. It will be an epic disaster if benefits are ended altogether.

“expected to release their proposal this week, are generally loath to extend the full benefit. They feel it creates a disincentive for people to return to work, a concern echoed by some business owners. Instead, GOP lawmakers are considering scaling back the enhancement by several hundred dollars and creating a bonus for those who go back to work.“

[Kidd Lex]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://www.bioworld.com/articles/47...id-19-immunity

That’s incredible. T Cells being created in almost all infected is huge, and with the news from Oxford that their vaccine creates three fold the immune protection of a natural infection things are starting to look much more hopeful to get past this pandemic in the next 6-12 months.

[KS Smitty]

Non-peer reviewed but this may explain why different areas have different severity of the virus.

"Analysis of data from the COVID Symptom Study app, led by researchers from King’s College London, reveals that there are six distinct ‘types’ of COVID-19, each distinguished by a particular cluster of symptoms."

https://www.technologynetworks.com/d...iKJ_QnZ5MjauoE

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by O.city

https://www.bioworld.com/articles/47...id-19-immunity

This is great ****ing news!

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by KS Smitty

Non-peer reviewed but this may explain why different areas have different severity of the virus.

"Analysis of data from the COVID Symptom Study app, led by researchers from King’s College London, reveals that there are six distinct ‘types’ of COVID-19, each distinguished by a particular cluster of symptoms."

https://www.technologynetworks.com/d...iKJ_QnZ5MjauoE

Only 4 more to go Lew!

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

Only 4 more to go Lew!

**** ME.