Home Discord Chat
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > Nzoner's Game Room
Reload this Page Cardinals ***Official 2020 STL Cardinals Thread***
Register FAQDonate Members List Calendar

Reply
Page 25 of 40 « First 1521222324 25 2627282935 Last »
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 02-13-2020, 01:21 PM  
BigRedChief BigRedChief is online now
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $-561038
VARSITY
***Official 2020 STL Cardinals Thread***
2020 Opening Day Lineup

Spoiler!


For the new Cardinal fans that joined the Planet since last year.....
2019 Thread
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=320239
2018 Thread
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=312812
2012 Thread
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=254619
etc.
All the way back to 2006 WS
https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=312812
Last edited by BigRedChief; 07-24-2020 at 02:44 PM..
Posts: 81,251
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 02:07 PM   #361
BigRedChief BigRedChief is online now
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $-561038
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
He's done a spectacularly bad job and only the low expectations of DeWitt has allowed him to keep his job.
The only conclusion that we as fans can take from this consistent approach is that its not a bug, its a feature. The owner wants to make money. Sneak into the playoffs and get lucky. Thats the plan.

I think whats missing in Dewitt's plan is those 2004/2005/2006/2011/2013 teams had way more talent. They under-performed in the playoffs or during the season. Depends on the year. But, if it clicked, get lucky in the playoffs like it seems is Dewitt's plan, they had talent to win when they got on a roll.

The teams I'm seeing since 2014 needs it to go perfect to win in the playoffs.
__________________
Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
Posts: 81,251
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 02:17 PM   #362
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $-630901
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
The only conclusion that we as fans can take from this consistent approach is that its not a bug, its a feature. The owner wants to make money. Sneak into the playoffs and get lucky. Thats the plan.

I think whats missing in Dewitt's plan is those 2004/2005/2006/2011/2013 teams had way more talent. They under-performed in the playoffs or during the season. Depends on the year. But, if it clicked, get lucky in the playoffs like it seems is Dewitt's plan, they had talent to win when they got on a roll.

The teams I'm seeing since 2014 needs it to go perfect to win in the playoffs.
Not gonna happen w/ 3 rounds. DEFINITELY won't happen w/ 4 when the playoff expansions become permanent.

Baseball isn't hockey where a goalie can steal you 4 rounds by being unconscious. It's not basketball where you can have one guy just strafe creation for 16-20 games. It's not football where it's 1 and done and a guy like Flacco can just get hot for 3 games.

There's an element of crapshoot to a particular round, but man, it STILL requires a difference-maker somewhere and the Cardinals flat do not have one. The closest they can point to is Flaherty and he's not enough on his own. You have to reach a threshhold level of talent and the Cardinals do not seem inclined to attempt to do so.

You cannot steal a World Series if you're not trying. Even the 2006 Cardinals, arguably the weakest WS winner ever, had 4 guys in the midst of HoF caliber careers who had simply underperformed to that point. Yeah, their record sucked, but they had Carpenter, Molina, Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds on that squad and mostly healthy by the post-season.

This team has 1 guy who can hang with that level of player (Flaherty) another who's showing a rebound to that level (Goldschmidt) and....what? The second most valuable player on this team right now is almost certainly Brad !@#$ing Miller.

And that's to say nothing of the 2011 squad or the 2004/5 squads.

I mean this team isn't even a reasonable facsimile of teams built back when Dewitt gave a shit. And it COULD'VE been.

But our owner doesn't care and our GM is an idiot.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 66,720
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 02:19 PM   #363
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $-535936
Lord those 04/05 teams were just, unreal.

Hate that we ran into that destiny shit ass Boston team in 04.
Posts: 84,157
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 02:21 PM   #364
Marcellus Marcellus is offline
Diablo Negro
 
Marcellus's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2003
Casino cash: $-307338
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Lord those 04/05 teams were just, unreal.

Hate that we ran into that destiny shit ass Boston team in 04.
04' might have been the most fun regular season of baseball I have ever watched.
Posts: 74,275
Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.Marcellus is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 02:22 PM   #365
O.city O.city is offline
In Search of a Life
 
O.city's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2009
Casino cash: $-535936
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus View Post
04' might have been the most fun regular season of baseball I have ever watched.
04*06 were my favorite years.
Posts: 84,157
O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.O.city is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 02:27 PM   #366
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $-630901
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Lord those 04/05 teams were just, unreal.

Hate that we ran into that destiny shit ass Boston team in 04.
The '04 season was the most fun I've ever had as a baseball fan, even if it didn't end in a series.

That summer was just something to behold. A 90 game stretch of 60-22 baseball where it felt like they were just toying with teams. LaRussa just glowering from the top step and teams literally losing before the first pitch because those teams were smart and mean as ****.

Nobody wanted to play them. Teams were openly intimidated by that squad. The 2011 post-season may have been the best job by a manager I've seen over a short period, but nothing will ever capture the upshot of having Tony LaRussa as your manager (warts notwithstanding) better than that 90 game stretch where they perfectly reflected his style.

It was a short taste of what rooting for the Empire in Star Wars would've been like....right up to the damn death star exploding at the end. They weren't some plucky little darling underdog. They were on a mission man, they were the terminator. They were a soulless killing machine. And yeah, it blew up in the end but for a bit there it was one hell of a ride.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 66,720
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 03:28 PM   #367
BigRedChief BigRedChief is online now
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $-561038
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
Lord those 04/05 teams were just, unreal.

Hate that we ran into that destiny shit ass Boston team in 04.
Quote:
Originally Posted by O.city View Post
04*06 were my favorite years.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marcellus View Post
04' might have been the most fun regular season of baseball I have ever watched.
I think almost if not all of Cardinal nations believe the same.

That 04 team was a juggernaut. They didn’t just beat teams, they crushed their spirit. No team wanted to play us. It was the best regular season team I’ve ever witnessed. The 05 team is by far the best team I’ve ever seen that didn’t even get to a WS.
__________________
Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
Posts: 81,251
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 03:36 PM   #368
VAChief VAChief is offline
Comfortably Numb
 

Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Virginia
Casino cash: $2264657
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post
The '04 season was the most fun I've ever had as a baseball fan, even if it didn't end in a series.

That summer was just something to behold. A 90 game stretch of 60-22 baseball where it felt like they were just toying with teams. LaRussa just glowering from the top step and teams literally losing before the first pitch because those teams were smart and mean as ****.

Nobody wanted to play them. Teams were openly intimidated by that squad. The 2011 post-season may have been the best job by a manager I've seen over a short period, but nothing will ever capture the upshot of having Tony LaRussa as your manager (warts notwithstanding) better than that 90 game stretch where they perfectly reflected his style.

It was a short taste of what rooting for the Empire in Star Wars would've been like....right up to the damn death star exploding at the end. They weren't some plucky little darling underdog. They were on a mission man, they were the terminator. They were a soulless killing machine. And yeah, it blew up in the end but for a bit there it was one hell of a ride.
When they got Walker it just felt like we were rubbing it in, you just couldn't imagine it getting any better.

Anything can happen in a short series, but I just didn't see the Sox coming in on fumes, even after an emotional series against their rival being able to sustain that...yet it happened.

The 69 Orioles won 109 games yet lost to the Mets (who did win 100 games). The Mets were hot at the end and had young arms, a couple of studs up front in Seaver and Koosman and McGraw and Ryan in the bullpen. Other than Cleon Jones and Tommie Agee it was pretty much a journeymen lineup who got hot at the end of the year.
Posts: 5,855
VAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliVAChief 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 04:12 PM   #369
BigRedChief BigRedChief is online now
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $-561038
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by DJ's left nut View Post

You cannot steal a World Series if you're not trying. Even the 2006 Cardinals, arguably the weakest WS winner ever, had 4 guys in the midst of HoF caliber careers who had simply underperformed to that point. Yeah, their record sucked, but they had Carpenter, Molina, Pujols, Rolen and Edmonds on that squad and mostly healthy by the post-season.

This team has 1 guy who can hang with that level of player (Flaherty) another who's showing a rebound to that level (Goldschmidt) and....what? The second most valuable player on this team right now is almost certainly Brad !@#$ing Miller.

And that's to say nothing of the 2011 squad or the 2004/5 squads.

I mean this team isn't even a reasonable facsimile of teams built back when Dewitt gave a shit. And it COULD'VE been.

But our owner doesn't care and our GM is an idiot.
Exactly. Who on this team belongs/replace these guys?

Walker
Pujols
Rolen
Edmonds
Sanders
__________________
Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
Posts: 81,251
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 04:18 PM   #370
Marco Polo Marco Polo is offline
Veteran
 
Marco Polo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 41°59.4′N 87°39.6'W
Casino cash: $3988908
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
Exactly. Who on this team belongs/replace these guys?

Walker
Pujols
Rolen
Edmonds
Sanders
One thing about Jockety- he didn't give a **** about making trades or disrupting the clubhouse morale like Mo does. The trading deadline was always exciting with Walt but always a yawn with Mo. I may hate Mo more than I hated Carl Peterson and the turd that followed.
Posts: 2,540
Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 04:32 PM   #371
DJ's left nut DJ's left nut is online now
Sauntering Vaguely Downwards
 
DJ's left nut's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Columbia, Mo
Casino cash: $-630901
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marco Polo View Post
One thing about Jockety- he didn't give a **** about making trades or disrupting the clubhouse morale like Mo does. The trading deadline was always exciting with Walt but always a yawn with Mo. I may hate Mo more than I hated Carl Peterson and the turd that followed.
Jocketty was never afraid of being wrong.

Mozeliak's terrified of it.

That pretty much sums up the difference in their approaches.
__________________
"If there's a god, he's laughing at us.....and our football team..."

"When you look at something through rose colored glasses, all the red flags just look like flags."
Posts: 66,720
DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.DJ's left nut is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 04:59 PM   #372
Pasta Little Brioni Pasta Little Brioni is offline
Consuming CP souls
 

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: U.S.A.
Casino cash: $398880
So we are back to....fire Mo? I'm in
__________________
****Official TFWdemB Trivia Commisioner****
Posts: 72,919
Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.Pasta Little Brioni is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 07:15 PM   #373
BigRedChief BigRedChief is online now
Has a particular set of skills
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: On the water
Casino cash: $-561038
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball View Post
So we are back to....fire Mo? I'm in
Back? Who in here hasn't been on that bandwagon for years?
__________________
Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
Posts: 81,251
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-01-2020, 07:17 PM   #374
Miles Miles is offline
MVP
 
Miles's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Dallas, TX
Casino cash: $-1497600
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
Back? Who in here hasn't been on that bandwagon for years?
I was about to reply with the same.
Posts: 14,539
Miles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliMiles 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
     Reply With Quote
Old 09-02-2020, 08:24 AM   #375
Marco Polo Marco Polo is offline
Veteran
 
Marco Polo's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: 41°59.4′N 87°39.6'W
Casino cash: $3988908
Kudos to the offense- 16 runs! Now we will average 1-2 runs/game for a while. I hate to sound so negative but this offense is so unpredictable.
Posts: 2,540
Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.Marco Polo has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
     Reply With Quote
Reply
Page 25 of 40 « First 1521222324 25 2627282935 Last »

« Previous Thread | > Nzoner's Game Room < | Next Thread »

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:39 AM.

Contact Us - ChiefsPlanet - Archive - Top

This is a test for a client's site.
Fort Worth Texas Process Servers
Covering Arlington, Fort Worth, Grand Prairie and surrounding communities.
Tarrant County, Texas and Johnson County, Texas.
Advertise with us!
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.