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Old 10-28-2020, 11:39 AM  
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Kelce: Mahomes' Raiders INT was on me
During today's presser, Kelce was asked why he was so pissed off at himself on Twitter after the Raiders game.

He then described how during the game, they have a lot of freedom to make choices during the flow of a play, which often leads to success. He called himself out for freelancing on the route that lead to Mahomes' (only) Interception this year, and how it hurt the team by allowing them to turn it into a 16 point lead.

1. It's cool that he owns this and pushes himself to be better.

2. It's insane that the only interception Patrick has had this season wasn't his fault.

Ultimately, it's on Patrick to not make the throw, but he clearly trusts Kelce and so perhaps there was something Kelce missed on the coverage during the play.
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Old 10-28-2020, 12:24 PM   #16
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Old 10-28-2020, 01:43 PM   #17
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also its crazy that Mahomes' only INT was on a GOTTA have it fourth down which means hes throwing it up for grabs anyway if there isn't anyone obviously open.
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Old 10-28-2020, 01:48 PM   #18
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Old 10-28-2020, 02:06 PM   #19
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Hes considered by everybody to be a top 1 or 2 TE.....how is he "criminally underrated" again?
I think people generally view him like Witten. They know he's good but they're not sure why he's good. Gronk was unstoppable where kelce is just good. Kittle is this complete player where kelce is just a solid receiver.

Because he has mahomes some may credit much of his success to mahomes. Which is unfair considering how much work he puts in to every route. Because he was a goofball early in his career leading to some brain farts I don't think he gets enough credit for how much effort he puts into every play. Maybe underappreciated is the better term.
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I like the fact that last week, CBS pregame was talking about Kelce and Kittle in the same breath. Kittle is great but I get tired of hearing how great he is compared to Kelce.

They're almost the same player in a lot of respects - Kelce is a much better blocker than people realize because the offense is so different from Shanahan's.

The simple fact is that there's Kelce, Kittle, and everybody else. And it's not even really close.
Pretty much.

If Kittle is a better blocker Kelce runs better routes.

Kelces footwork is absolutely filthy. He’s going to be open for quite some time after his speed fades as long as he can stay healthy. Dude is nasty.
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Old 10-28-2020, 02:20 PM   #21
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I think people generally view him like Witten. They know he's good but they're not sure why he's good. Gronk was unstoppable where kelce is just good. Kittle is this complete player where kelce is just a solid receiver.

Because he has mahomes some may credit much of his success to mahomes. Which is unfair considering how much work he puts in to every route. Because he was a goofball early in his career leading to some brain farts I don't think he gets enough credit for how much effort he puts into every play. Maybe underappreciated is the better term.
Was Gronk more "unstoppable" than Kelce? I'm not sure even the stats bear that out.
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I think people generally view him like Witten. They know he's good but they're not sure why he's good. Gronk was unstoppable where kelce is just good. Kittle is this complete player where kelce is just a solid receiver.

Because he has mahomes some may credit much of his success to mahomes. Which is unfair considering how much work he puts in to every route. Because he was a goofball early in his career leading to some brain farts I don't think he gets enough credit for how much effort he puts into every play. Maybe underappreciated is the better term.
Kelce will go down as the best receiving TE of all time. He’s embarrassed the best defenders again and again.

Myles Jack, Tremaine Edmunds, Fred Warner, Kwon Alexander. Doesn’t matter. He gets open. Derwin James is the only defender I’ve ever seen shut down Kelce in a game 1v1.

I’ve never seen a TE move laterally as quickly as Kelce either. He knows where the zones are and how to get open.

Haters can say what they want, but Kelce isn’t a “solid” receiver. He’s GREAT.
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Old 10-28-2020, 02:41 PM   #24
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Kelce will go down as the best receiving TE of all time.
Hopefully he can play long enough. Because let's be real, he needs to have a couple more years like this to really be considered the best. When it comes to HOF voting, longevity counts far more than it probably should.
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I think people generally view him like Witten. They know he's good but they're not sure why he's good. Gronk was unstoppable where kelce is just good. Kittle is this complete player where kelce is just a solid receiver.

Because he has mahomes some may credit much of his success to mahomes. Which is unfair considering how much work he puts in to every route. Because he was a goofball early in his career leading to some brain farts I don't think he gets enough credit for how much effort he puts into every play. Maybe underappreciated is the better term.
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Was Gronk more "unstoppable" than Kelce? I'm not sure even the stats bear that out.
Maybe. When Gronk was healthy he was pretty unstoppable. No single defender was going to cover him. He was just too big and physical a receiver. And he was pretty fast as well.

I mean, I just watched him out-run a DB last weekend, fcs. So he's still got some speed left in him.
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Maybe. When Gronk was healthy he was pretty unstoppable. No single defender was going to cover him. He was just too big and physical a receiver. And he was pretty fast as well.

I mean, I just watched him out-run a DB last weekend, fcs. So he's still got some speed left in him.
How many single defenders can "cover" Kelce?
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Was Gronk more "unstoppable" than Kelce? I'm not sure even the stats bear that out.
I don't know. I like our guy but I'm biased. I'm talking public perception not what my opinion is.
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