***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by loochy

Hell, just preload some syringes and start poking people on the street

We could eliminate covid and simultaneously solve our street addict unemployment problem by having them administer it to passersby. I love it.

I don't like that new half-dose Moderna plan, by the way. Let's just stick with the plan and get this over and done with.

[kcxiv]

So, my 21 year old cousin who is an EMT said she got Covid early in this whole thing and still have lingering effects and has to go back to the doctors to get tested because she's not having fun right now! Wonder how many more are like this.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by kcxiv

So, my 21 year old cousin who is an EMT said she got Covid early in this whole thing and still have lingering effects and has to go back to the doctors to get tested because she's not having fun right now! Wonder how many more are like this.

https://health.ucdavis.edu/coronavir...g-haulers.html

[O.city]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

What type of anticoagulation is she on?

I’m not sure

They have her at Barnes. Neurologist said it’s a small bleed they’re going to monitor for a week or so to make sure it heals. Said she’s dizzy and nauseous but that’s probably normal with the situation

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

I’m not sure

They have her at Barnes. Neurologist said it’s a small bleed they’re going to monitor for a week or so to make sure it heals. Said she’s dizzy and nauseous but that’s probably normal with the situation

Hoping for a speedy recovery!

(BTW did you get your shot yet?)

[keg in kc]

Tested Saturday for the first time. Negative, no surprise. No symptoms, no known exposure. But I'm landing in Kona in an hour and I'd like to avoid quarantine.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Hoping for a speedy recovery!

(BTW did you get your shot yet?)

Wednesday

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Local and state level people have been put in charge of the roll out. They do not have the resources to make this happen as quickly as most would like to see it happening.

My fed government also has a habit of leaving things up to the states that really should be dealt with at the federal level.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Tested Saturday for the first time. Negative, no surprise. No symptoms, no known exposure. But I'm landing in Kona in an hour and I'd like to avoid quarantine.

Are you posting from some sort of flying machine?

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

I’m not sure

They have her at Barnes. Neurologist said it’s a small bleed they’re going to monitor for a week or so to make sure it heals. Said she’s dizzy and nauseous but that’s probably normal with the situation

I had 2 large subdurals one included a 9mm midline shift , dizzy and nausea are definitely par for the course.

[BigRedChief]

LA ambulance crews told not to transport patients that have little chance of survival to hospitals. To conserve oxygen use as they are running out of O2 in LA.

So now EMT’s are the death panels?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Monticore

I had 2 large subdurals one included a 9mm midline shift , dizzy and nausea are definitely par for the course.

Talked to her this morning. She’s in icu there at Barnes. Said she just feels dizzy but other than that and being sore she’s ok.

Did a ct this am and it is same size so that’s what they wanna see will keep her for a couple days observation

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by O.city

Talked to her this morning. She’s in icu there at Barnes. Said she just feels dizzy but other than that and being sore she’s ok.

Did a ct this am and it is same size so that’s what they wanna see will keep her for a couple days observation

no change overnight sounds like good news, could take several weeks to resolve though but as long as it isn't getting bigger that's good, are they giving her steroids?

[notorious]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

LA ambulance crews told not to transport patients that have little chance of survival to hospitals. To conserve oxygen use as they are running out of O2 in LA.

So now EMT’s are the death panels?

That has to be false.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

LA ambulance crews told not to transport patients that have little chance of survival to hospitals. To conserve oxygen use as they are running out of O2 in LA.

So now EMT’s are the death panels?

Both measures announced Monday, which were issued by the agency's medical director, Dr. Marianne Gausche-Hill, were taken in an attempt to get ahead of an expected surge to come following the winter holidays.


"We do not believe that we are yet seeing the cases that stemmed from the Christmas holiday," Ghaly added. "This, sadly, and the cases from the recent New Year's holiday, is still before us, and hospitals across the region are doing everything they can to prepare."

Speaking to the CBS affiliate in Los Angeles, Gausche-Hill said personnel would continue to do everything possible to save the lives of patients, both at the scene and in the hospital.

"We are not abandoning resuscitation," she said. "We are absolutely doing best practice resuscitation and that is do it in the field, do it right away."

"[We] are emphasizing the fact that transporting these patients arrested leads to very poor outcomes. We knew that already and we just don't want to impact our hospitals," she added.

Meanwhile, the state is looking for ways to increase its supply of oxygen for use in treating COVID-19 patients, Gov. Gavin Newsom said, according to the Los Angeles Times.

"We're just looking at the panoply of oxygen support ... across the spectrum and looking how we can utilize more flexibility and broader distribution of these oxygen units all up and down the state, but particularly in these areas — San Joaquin Valley and Los Angeles, the larger Southern California region — that are in particular need and are under particular stress," Newsom said.

In other words is preventive and also sounds like something they frowned upon before and they are really enforcing it now. But you probably knew all this since you read the article.