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Old 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM  
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Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:02 PM   #901
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When was that?
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A LONG time ago.

Look, the most interesting thing to watch this offseason will be what Veach does with Schwarts and Fisher. I mean this is the absolute worst situation we could find ourselves in. Two OTs in their early 30s with big cap numbers and one year remaining on their deals. I don't know what the right answer is.

I agree with the people who say if the Chiefs draft a LT in the first round, Fisher is toast. I also think that building an Online with a group of players that have little to no NFL experience isn't ideal, and frankly is stupid when you are protecting someone the likes of Mahomes and what he means to the franchise.

I think there has to be a free agent component to this.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:03 PM   #902
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The only 2 guys I’m comfortable plugging in are Niang and LDT.

After that I think you have to have a realistic plan that looks something like this:

Re-sign Osemele
Sign Jason Peters
Sign Justin Britt

Draft:

2. Quinn Meinerz/Creed Humphrey/Josh Myers
3. Walker Little/James Hudson/D’Ante Smith

That’s a realistic plan in terms of what I’d expect the Chiefs to do.
Yep. You've got to use free agency to address immediate needs, especially given our draft position. You never know how the draft is going to play out, and more importantly, how a prospect is going to look once they're in the league. The more holes we can fill using players in the FA bargain bin, the closer we can get to a BPA draft.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:03 PM   #903
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A LONG time ago.

Look, the most interesting thing to watch this offseason will be what Veach does with Schwarts and Fisher. I mean this is the absolute worst situation we could find ourselves in. Two OTs in their early 30s with big cap numbers and one year remaining on their deals. I don't know what the right answer is.

I agree with the people who say if the Chiefs draft a LT in the first round, Fisher is toast. I also think that building an Online with a group of players that have little to no NFL experience isn't ideal, and frankly is stupid when you are protecting someone the likes of Mahomes and what he means to the franchise.

I think there has to be a free agent component to this.
Exactly.
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I just find it weird that people have trusted Veach when it comes to other positions. Now all of a sudden we’re ****ed at the offensive line if they don’t do what people want.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:04 PM   #905
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Yep. You've got to use free agency to address immediate needs, especially given our draft position. You never know how the draft is going to play out, and more importantly, how a prospect is going to look once they're in the league. The more holes we can fill using players in the FA bargain bin, the closer we can get to a BPA draft.
Yep.
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I just find it weird that people have trusted Veach when it comes to other positions. Now all of a sudden we’re ****ed at the offensive line if they don’t do what people want.
How long have you posted on this website? There's been plenty of criticism of Veach and his moves in the past.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:07 PM   #907
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How long have you posted on this website? There's been plenty of criticism of Veach and his moves in the past.
Before the Super Bowl? Sure.

After? Not so much.
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Old 02-12-2021, 04:09 PM   #908
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So what are people's take on Cam Robinson? Now I have not watched enough Jacksonville games to have an opinion, but I'd rather spend FA dollar on someone who's 26 than someone who is 33.
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Before the Super Bowl? Sure.

After? Not so much.
Yeah, I've still seen criticism after the fact as well. Maybe not quite as vitriolic but it's still there.
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The only 2 guys I’m comfortable plugging in are Niang and LDT.

After that I think you have to have a realistic plan that looks something like this:

Re-sign Osemele
Sign Jason Peters
Sign Justin Britt

Draft:

2. Quinn Meinerz/Creed Humphrey/Josh Myers
3. Walker Little/James Hudson/D’Ante Smith

That’s a realistic plan in terms of what I’d expect the Chiefs to do.
Peters is a great thought as a stop gap. He'll be 40 next season, but if he wants to ring chase and can come back from his IR stint to end this season, that would be a good 2021 solution to where KC is.

In that scenario, are you thinking

Peters
Allegretti (or Osemele if he's GtG)
Meineri/Humphrey/Myers
LDT
Niang
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Yep. You've got to use free agency to address immediate needs, especially given our draft position. You never know how the draft is going to play out, and more importantly, how a prospect is going to look once they're in the league. The more holes we can fill using players in the FA bargain bin, the closer we can get to a BPA draft.
Exactly. Especially the way the Chiefs are built now. The window is still open. Use the draft to select depth and future talent.
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Peters is a great thought as a stop gap. He'll be 40 next season, but if he wants to ring chase and can come back from his IR stint to end this season, that would be a good 2021 solution to where KC is.

In that scenario, are you thinking

Peters
Allegretti (or Osemele if he's GtG)
Meineri/Humphrey/Myers
LDT
Niang
If they intend to wait on Fish, they might do it. But, I'd play it like Fish won't be available next season.
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Can someone please explain this fascination with Jason Peters to me? He's going to be 40 years old, coming off the IR, and hasn't exactly been an iron man the seasons prior. When the problem this past season was all our OL getting injured and leaving us with nothing but scrubs, relying on guys like Peters or even worse Osemele or Britt seems ridiculous to me. Am I taking crazy pills or what?
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The thing that is going to piss me off is us keeping Sammy. You just know it’s going to happen. Patrick loves the guy and Veach won’t want to get rid of him so quickly.

I just pray to god he takes $5 million or less with incentives packed in that deal and we draft a WR in the first 3 rounds.
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