Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate

[Dante84]

In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Chief Northman

Devin White says hi.

We're not picking top 5. Not even top 15.

There's guys like Simmons and White and then there's literally a sea of everybody else.

For all we know, we have the 3-down LB we need already in Willie Gay. Or you know, we could have spent a 1st round pick on Patrick ****ing Queen.

[MahomesMagic]

3 down lb would be nice but unless something crazy value wise happened like JOK or Parsons dropping out of the top ten it doesn't make sense in the 1st.

Let the Buffalo's of the world waste a pick on a Nick Bolton late 1.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

ILB would be so unnecessary early in the draft anyhow.

They love Hitchens, and you can tell they are really excited about Gay. Even posted a video of his highlights yesterday on the team account and said they ‘can’t wait to see his development’..

That’s your starters. Sure we could use depth, but picking one in the first round, even the 2nd, is irresponsible in regards to the rest of the roster where several needs exist. If the grades are close, you gotta take one of those other positions.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

ILB would be so unnecessary early in the draft anyhow.

They love Hitchens, and you can tell they are really excited about Gay. Even posted a video of his highlights yesterday on the team account and said they ‘can’t wait to see his development’..

That’s your starters. Sure we could use depth, but picking one in the first round, even the 2nd, is irresponsible in regards to the rest of the roster where several needs exist. If the grades are close, you gotta take one of those other positions.

Disagree...too many times tight ends go off against on this defense because the linebackers can't cover...and Hitchens is not good enough either!!..they've been forced to give him the keys because of the terrible contract Veach gave him...but enough is enough. If a stud lb falls to 31st we should take him imo as it would improve this defense without question...time to give Pat a decent defense now.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Disagree...too many times tight ends go pff against on this defense because the linebackers can't cover...and Hitchens is not good enough either!!..they've been forced to give him the keys because of the terrible contract Veach gave him...but enough is enough. If a stud lb falls to 31st we should take him imo as it would improve this defense without question...time to give Pat a decent defense now.

Why did we even draft Willie Gay then if we have to go take another ILB?

He barely played last year. When he did, he flashed game changing ability. Can we give the kid a shot?

We don’t need two sideline to sideline LBs. That would be a luxury. But again, they aren’t replacing Hitchens yet. His mental game is something the staff loves, his leadership, and honestly he was solid this year.

We need immediate upgrades at several other positions if we are going to get back to the SB.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

This was posted by the Chiefs just yesterday: https://twitter.com/chiefs/status/13...443505668?s=21

They like the kid, you can tell it. They don’t post stuff like this often. If he stays healthy, he’s your answer at ILB.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

Why did we even draft Willie Gay then if we have to go take another ILB?

He barely played last year. When he did, he flashed game changing ability. Can we give the kid a shot?

We don’t need two sideline to sideline LBs. That would be a luxury. But again, they aren’t replacing Hitchens yet. His mental game is something the staff loves, his leadership, and honestly he was solid this year.

We need immediate upgrades at several other positions if we are going to get back to the SB.

Once again the staff don't "love" Hitch imo...they've been forced to adapt to the reality that he had a big contract I believe...because no-one can convince me that he's anything but average...and we need to improve that spot both in the run game and covering tight ends and running backs. You talk about upgrades in other spots but imo LB is one of the weakest position groups we have on the roster...and something has to give.

[RunKC]

We need to be looking for a LB at some point.

Neimann is a mother****ing disaster. We can’t have that ****er on the field

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

This was posted by the Chiefs just yesterday: https://twitter.com/chiefs/status/13...443505668?s=21

They like the kid, you can tell it. They don’t post stuff like this often. If he stays healthy, he’s your answer at ILB.

Social media posts mean nothing imo...they had a video of Willie mic'd up in preaseason and what happened? He barely got on the field.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We need to be looking for a LB at some point.

Neimann is a mother****ing disaster. We can’t have that ****er on the field

Totally agree..it's a position that has been terrible since DJ left and people think putting average guys in there will suffice? Not for me. Colins, Bolton, Moses etc I'll take any one of these guys with the first two picks without question.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Disagree...too many times tight ends go off against on this defense because the linebackers can't cover...and Hitchens is not good enough either!!..they've been forced to give him the keys because of the terrible contract Veach gave him...but enough is enough. If a stud lb falls to 31st we should take him imo as it would improve this defense without question...time to give Pat a decent defense now.

LB's don't cover good TE's in the NFL.

Good TE's draw DB's in coverage and more often than not, double teams of safeties and CB's.

Drafting a LB in the first would be possibly the worst pick they could make. They'd be better off taking another RB.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We need to be looking for a LB at some point.

Neimann is a mother****ing disaster. We can’t have that ****er on the field

True. We also don’t need to take one in the first round to replace him.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by RunKC

We need to be looking for a LB at some point.

Neimann is a mother****ing disaster. We can’t have that ****er on the field

You can replace Niemann in FA or the middle-to-late rounds.

There is no reason to spend high draft capital on a LB that won't even play that many snaps.

We already have Willie Gay for that.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger

Totally agree..it's a position that has been terrible since DJ left and people think putting average guys in there will suffice? Not for me. Colins, Bolton, Moses etc I'll take any one of these guys with the first two picks without question.

How many playoff games did DJ win?

DJ was a complete waste of a draft pick in hindsight. Great player but ultimately a LB. The only time he played on a defense that was worth a shit was when he had pass rushers in front of him and DB's behind him.

That's what makes an NFL defense go, more than anything else.

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

LB's don't cover good TE's in the NFL.

Good TE's draw DB's in coverage and more often than not, double teams of safeties and CB's.

Drafting a LB in the first would be possibly the worst pick they could make. They'd be better off taking another RB.

They can certain help against tight ends...and did you watch what Mccafrey did to our lb's last season? The best defenses have good lb's who can go sideline to sideline..so no, it would not be a terrible pick imo.