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Old 02-08-2021, 10:03 AM  
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Veach's '21 Offseason Plan to Keep Us Thriving: Let's speculate
In order to prevent us wasting precious years of Patrick Mahomes' career, Veach needs to work some magic this offseason. What's your advice for him?
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:52 AM   #4351
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Trade up 10 or so spots and take a guy like Sam Cosmi. Nearly as much upside and far less cost.
This is where I am. We can’t afford to trade tons of future assets to move to the early teens.

I think they need to zone in on Jenkins and Cosmi and see if one of them are long term solutions. Hopefully don’t give up a future 1st to do it
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:52 AM   #4352
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This is where I am. We can’t afford to trade tons of future assets to move to the early teens.

I think they need to zone in on Jenkins and Cosmi and see if one of them are long term solutions. Hopefully don’t give up a future 1st to do it
I'm all for trading up. Just not trading up nearly 20 spots.
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:53 AM   #4353
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Thought Slaters measurements at his pro day squashed that line of thinking. He's not nearly as undersized or "lacking length" as you seem to have convinced yourself he is.
I haven't convinced myself of anything.

I'm reading scouting reports. They're the ones with the opinions.

Ignore them if you like, I'm not going to.
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:55 AM   #4354
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I haven't convinced myself of anything.

I'm reading scouting reports. They're the ones with the opinions.

Ignore them if you like, I'm not going to.
Yeah, I saw the measurements you were using to argue against Slater in the draft forum. I don't know which scout you got those from but they're laughably wrong.
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:56 AM   #4355
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Yeah, I saw the measurements you were using to argue against Slater in the draft forum. I don't know which scout you got those from but they're laughably wrong.
Well, he got housed repeatedly by AJ Epinesa and a lot of other guys with length. I've seen a couple dozen Northwestern games. I'm good with my evaluation.

You do you.
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Old 03-22-2021, 07:59 AM   #4356
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Well, he got housed repeatedly by AJ Epinesa and a lot of other guys with length. I've seen a couple dozen Northwestern games. I'm good with my evaluation.

You do you.
Alrighty then
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:01 AM   #4357
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Alrighty then
What else you want me to say?

You've been salty ever since the Super Bowl. That's your thing.
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If they think Darrisaw is an all pro LT, trade up for him. If not, don't.

I think I've probably talked myself into sitting at 31 and taking Walker Little and keeping my picks.
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Old 03-22-2021, 08:04 AM   #4359
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If they think Darrisaw is an all pro LT, trade up for him. If not, don't.

I think I've probably talked myself into sitting at 31 and taking Walker Little and keeping my picks.
They might be able to get Little into the 2nd. They could trade down at that point.
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The salary cap dropped by what, almost $15m?

Veach aggressively cleared cap space, and clearly had two big targets, landing one.

I know we all wish he'd gotten the OTHER one in hindsight, what can you do? It's not like he didn't try.

This is the FIRST WAVE of free agency, and in a year in which the cap dropped like it did, there will be a big second wave as teams struggle to get under the cap.

Bargain shopping is usually the best usage of financial resources, and I'm sure we'll be players there.

I'm also sure that there will be some trades for guys that Veach targets on teams that need to dump some salary.

AND there's still the draft, where Veach has been nails the last couple of years.

I'm really not worried. I'm curious; and just like you, I don't see exactly what the plan is, but I don't doubt that there IS one, and it'll make sense within another month or so.
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What else you want me to say?

You've been salty ever since the Super Bowl. That's your thing.
What are you talking about? I've been just fine and dandy ever since Veach committed to a complete overhaul of the OL. You're the one that seems to be a bit rustled.
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They might be able to get Little into the 2nd. They could trade down at that point.
They might be able to, but I doubt he makes it to the end of the 2nd. I'm ok reaching a bit for a LT.
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The salary cap dropped by what, almost $15m?

Veach aggressively cleared cap space, and clearly had two big targets, landing one.

I know we all wish he'd gotten the OTHER one in hindsight, what can you do? It's not like he didn't try.

This is the FIRST WAVE of free agency, and in a year in which the cap dropped like it did, there will be a big second wave as teams struggle to get under the cap.

Bargain shopping is usually the best usage of financial resources, and I'm sure we'll be players there.

I'm also sure that there will be some trades for guys that Veach targets on teams that need to dump some salary.

AND there's still the draft, where Veach has been nails the last couple of years.

I'm really not worried. I'm curious; and just like you, I don't see exactly what the plan is, but I don't doubt that there IS one, and it'll make sense within another month or so.
Teams are already under the cap now, they won't have to make many more moves.
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What are you talking about? I've been just fine and dandy ever since Veach committed to a complete overhaul of the OL. You're the one that seems to be a bit rustled.
You've shot in literally every move anyone has suggested other than the one you like.

Seriously, you haven't noticed that?
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They might be able to, but I doubt he makes it to the end of the 2nd. I'm ok reaching a bit for a LT.
Yeah, trading down would be great but it gives other teams to jump you again and take your guy. If he’s your guy and you’d take him 10-15 spots later....just grab him.

I don’t want to go into next season reading articles saying “Little was their guy but they thought they could get him later. They settled on “X”.”
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