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Old 02-17-2021, 05:43 AM  
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What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2
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Nothing is wrong with him! Unless you consider Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce as being a problem.

Mecole was 3rd on the team in targets (62), rec yards (560), and rec TDs (4). Those stats are right in line with any other teams 3rd most productive receiver and none of those other teams had 2 guys that were 1st team AP in front of that guy.

Green Bay Packers #1 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Robert Tonyan - 59 targets, 52 rec, 586 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 212
Rec - 148
Yards - 2064

Buffalo Bills #2 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Gabriel Davis - 62 targets, 35 rec, 599 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 273
Rec - 209
Yards - 2502

Tampa Bay Buccaneers #3 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Rob Gronkowski - 77 targets, 45 rec, 623 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 193
Rec - 135
Yards - 1846

Tennessee Titans #4 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jonnu Smith - 65 targets, 41 rec, 448 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 198
Rec - 135
Yards - 2059

New Orleans Saints #5 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Jared Cook - 60 targets, 37 rec, 504 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 189
Rec - 144
Yards - 1482

Baltimore Ravens #7 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Willie Snead - 48 targets, 33 rec, 432 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 188
Rec - 116
Yards - 1470

Seattle Seahawks #8 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
David Moore - 47 targets, 35 rec, 417 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 261
Rec - 183
Yards - 2357

Indianapolis Colts #9 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Michael Pittman Jr. - 61 targets, 40 rec, 503 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 164
Rec - 99
Yards - 1391

Las Vegas Raiders #10 ranked scoring offense
3rd most productive receiving option
Hunter Renfrow - 77 targets, 56 rec, 656 yds

Top 2 options
Targets - 227
Rec - 155
Yards - 2092

Average for top 10 scoring offense's 3rd most productive receiving option :

Targets - 62
Receptions - 41
Yards - 530

Average for top 10 scoring offense's top 2 most productive receiving options combined :

Targets - 212
Receptions - 147
Yards - 1918


This is how Hardman stacks up against the other teams 3rd receiving option

Targets - 62 (62 avg)
Receptions - 41 (41 avg)
Yards - 560 (530 avg)

Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce combined

Targets - 280 (most in group)
Receptions - 192 (2nd most in group)
Yards - 2692 (most in group)

So what we can see from these stats above is that nothing is up with Mecole Hardman. His targets and reception matched the average of the 9 other top offenses 3rd receiving option and he was above average in yards, but the big huge difference is Travis Kelce and Tyreek Hill just happen to be on the same team as him. Those two have 68 more combined targets, 45 more combined receptions, and 774 more combined yards than the others teams top 2 receiving threats.

TLDR;

Nothing is wrong, he's right in line with the other teams 3rd most productive pass catchers. Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are monsters and the best pass catching duo in a long ass time.

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Seriously Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce are so good! There was only 11 QBs with more TD passes than those 2 had receiving TDs.

PSS:

****ing Cam Newton started 15 games and had 45 less passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards in the same amount of games!

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****ing MVP Lamar had 65 more passing yards than Hill and Kelce had rec yards and they tied for the same amount of passing TDs to receiving TDs.
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:21 PM   #211
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Hardman & Mahomes have never been on the same page.

Hardman is a good gadget player/return specialist.
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Old 08-20-2021, 07:23 PM   #212
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Is it overreaction planet when this is the same shit we've seen the last 2 years?
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Lol…so the key is to throw it behind him at his shoe laces.
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Lol…so the key is to throw it behind him at his shoe laces.
If the QB gives Mecole bad chemistry, then Mecole's bad chemistry will undo the bad chemistry and create good chemistry!
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Yeah he seems to have good chemistry with Henne. QB by committee? Mahomes plays on plays meant for everybody else and Henne comes in for plays designed for Mecole?
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Yeah he seems to have good chemistry with Henne. QB by committee? Mahomes plays on plays meant for everybody else and Henne comes in for plays designed for Mecole?
Shut your stupid whore mouth.
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Hardman & Mahomes have never been on the same page.

Hardman is a good gadget player/return specialist.
Cut Mahomes? Thank God I’m not the head coach of the Chiefs because I would relegate Hardman to what you said. Pringle would be my #2 at this point. Based on clutch catches alone.
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Some HS kids/Freshman in college were saying something like this as well.

Not that I would be doing that was well at that age (not).

Is it a distraction...dunno. But as a Professional, whether it is football, CPA, Pilot, member of the military, you represent your corporation/brand.

It is all perspective. If he makes these choices, what other ones (bad) will he make?

Dedication to his craft? or tang? He has the physical gifts. Does he have the drive to put the time in to developing his unique abilities?

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Still have not seen anything from Mecole that leads me to believe he can be a 45-snap guy who can beat CBs who play with physicality.

He is very good at the role Andy carved out for him but he needs to take a big giant step and soon.

Stopping on a route leading to a Mahomes INT is a cardinal sin in KC these days. That can NEVER happen again.
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Still have not seen anything from Mecole that leads me to believe he can be a 45-snap guy who can beat CBs who play with physicality.

He is very good at the role Andy carved out for him but he needs to take a big giant step and soon.

Stopping on a route leading to a Mahomes INT is a cardinal sin in KC these days. That can NEVER happen again.
Is this gifed up somewhere?
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