Chiefs What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2

-King- · 08-22-2021, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

I call false on your statement. It takes dedication and commitment and this is his third year to develop that chemistry. Holy ****ing shit.

How long has Kelce been in the league? and Tyreek is a freak you won't find anywhere.

Even in 2018, Mahomes first year starting, him, Kelce and Hill had basically no chemistry issues together. It sure as hell didn't take 3 years

Rasputin · 08-22-2021, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Even in 2018, Mahomes first year starting, him, Kelce and Hill had basically no chemistry issues together. It sure as hell didn't take 3 years

For the record you are saying Mahomes and Hardman can't and won't develop chemistry together because in a pre season game they didn't connect on two errant throws by Patrick Mahomes II? Or that they just never had that chemistry together so therefor they will never get chemistry?

Rasputin · 08-22-2021, 05:40 PM

For you Mecole Hardman haters I have a question.

Can a player get better in his third year or not?

smithandrew051 · 08-22-2021, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

For you Mecole Hardman haters I have a question.

Can a player get better in his third year or not?

I have a better question.

If Hardman ends the season with 800+ yards and 6+ touchdowns, does it matter how that happens?

Rasputin · 08-22-2021, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I have a better question.

If Hardman ends the season with 800+ yards and 6+ touchdowns, does it matter how that happens?

That's a very good question

Red Dawg · 08-22-2021, 05:49 PM

I said it before and I will say it again. Hardman needs a few games before we write him off. Give him a chance since he has never been opposite Hill.

Cut the kid a break until he's played some.

TwistedChief · 08-22-2021, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

I have a better question.

If Hardman ends the season with 800+ yards and 6+ touchdowns, does it matter how that happens?

I'll flip that on its head.

If Hardman ends the season with those stats - regardless of whether a quarter of it is achieved via flip passes or quick screens - and he fumbles in the AFCCG and costs us the game or runs the wrong route in the SB on a wide open deep route and we end up losing a nailbiter, does it matter that that's his production?

I don't think any of us doubt that Hardman has the scope to be productive in this offense. He's athletically gifted and there are enough other weapons that he's going to find his way to the end zone. I just think his floor has the potential to be dramatically lower given some of his mental lapses, and that can be a major hindrance to a team like the Chiefs that may just be able to turn a JAG into a consistent, productive receiver given Mahomes/Reid. The distribution of outcomes for Hardman is just wider and we may not need that.

(Somehow in this I've gotten painted as Hardman hater and it couldn't be further from the truth.)

**BossChief** · 08-22-2021, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

For you Mecole Hardman haters I have a question.

Can a player get better in his third year or not?

What has he improved on during his time in KC?

Rasputin · 08-22-2021, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

What has he improved on during his time in KC?

So you are saying going into his third year he can't improve?

I think he had a sophomore slump but I also think he will bounce back and be hungry to redeem himself especially from the Super Bowl that nobody had a good game in.

This is going into his third season do you think he can improve as a WR or not?

The season hasn't begun yet you know.

Rasputin · 08-22-2021, 07:12 PM

Hell I tell y'all what (i'm not Texan but used Texan accent)

I'm probably more excited about this offense and what Mecole means to this offense because of our offensive line and CEH. So with our new and improved offensive line that was makeshift all last season mind you. Teams are really going have to watch that deep threat now with Mecole and Tyreek because guess what we will have a running game and Patrick will have time in the pocket to go deep. He didn't have that luxury last year and I hope that doesn't make him skittish this year because I think that's why he drifts back and out of the pocket so much.

So in the grande scheme of things I do think Hardman can be a viable #2 if he can turn the jets on and bypass the CB covering him the safeties are going have to figure out to come up and stop the run or protect the deep ball. That has been the MO of most defenses to protect the deep ball but now with the running game and protecting Patrick game on. This also plays much into Tyreek favor as well. Getty up mother ****ers.

Y'all hear what I'm sayin?

08-22-2021, 05:40 PM	#3
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08-22-2021, 05:49 PM	#6
Red Dawg Going home eventually Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $1382858	I said it before and I will say it again. Hardman needs a few games before we write him off. Give him a chance since he has never been opposite Hill. Cut the kid a break until he's played some. __________________ If you're not first you're last!
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08-22-2021, 07:12 PM	#10
Rasputin Tip of the hat LIV Champs Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: ks Casino cash: $185421	Hell I tell y'all what (i'm not Texan but used Texan accent) I'm probably more excited about this offense and what Mecole means to this offense because of our offensive line and CEH. So with our new and improved offensive line that was makeshift all last season mind you. Teams are really going have to watch that deep threat now with Mecole and Tyreek because guess what we will have a running game and Patrick will have time in the pocket to go deep. He didn't have that luxury last year and I hope that doesn't make him skittish this year because I think that's why he drifts back and out of the pocket so much. So in the grande scheme of things I do think Hardman can be a viable #2 if he can turn the jets on and bypass the CB covering him the safeties are going have to figure out to come up and stop the run or protect the deep ball. That has been the MO of most defenses to protect the deep ball but now with the running game and protecting Patrick game on. This also plays much into Tyreek favor as well. Getty up mother ****ers. Y'all hear what I'm sayin? __________________ "Those who don't believe in magic will never find it"
Posts: 56,910