Chiefs What's wrong with Mecole Hardman - Part 2

TwistedChief · 08-22-2021, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

LETS just cut ****ing Hardman obviously he has no chance to improve his third year you are all right he sucks

How about
**** y'all

Doth protest too much?

Shut the **** up.

Are you secretly Mecole Hardman?

There's a wide spectrum between Mecole Hardman is a great receiver and Mecole Hardman needs to be cut. Find your way there and join the rest of us.

Your posts in this thread are honestly becoming creepy. I thought maybe you were buzzed last night when you were posting about him but now you've continued with the same sycophantic tone and I'm concerned.

Rasputin · 08-22-2021, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Doth protest too much?

Shut the **** up.

Are you secretly Mecole Hardman?

There's a wide spectrum between Mecole Hardman is a great receiver and Mecole Hardman needs to be cut. Find your way there and join the rest of us.

Your posts in this thread are honestly becoming creepy. I thought maybe you were buzzed last night when you were posting about him but now you've continued with the same sycophantic tone and I'm concerned.

yes in fact I was quite buzzed last night.

I just don't get the hate for a guy that has contributed in winning Championships and give him the opportunity to be successful in this offense but I'm just being a fan defending a player I happen to like because I think he is going do some great things for us that will make the haters look foolish.

I'll either look stupid defending a player I like in this thread or any of the haters are going look stupid in this thread. Oh well I'm ready for the season to start I think it's going be a fun ride.

TwistedChief · 08-22-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

I'll either look stupid defending a player I like in this thread or any of the haters are going look stupid in this thread. Oh well I'm ready for the season to start I think it's going be a fun ride.

We're all Chiefs fans, bro. Let's lock arms together and enjoy the ride. XOXO.

-King- · 08-22-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

yes in fact I was quite buzzed last night.

I just don't get the hate for a guy that has contributed in winning Championships and give him the opportunity to be successful in this offense but I'm just being a fan defending a player I happen to like because I think he is going do some great things for us that will make the haters look foolish.

I'll either look stupid defending a player I like in this thread or any of the haters are going look stupid in this thread. Oh well I'm ready for the season to start I think it's going be a fun ride.

You realize no one is saying he can't or doesn't make plays?

He's going to have big plays this year. He's going to have a couple good games. But what we want to see out of him is consistency. Can he be a guy Mahomes trusts to get 5 yards? 10 yards? 15? Or is he a guy who Reid and Mahomes have to design plays just for him in order to have an effect on the game the majority of the time?

It's weird that you specifically pointed out the screen pass and the pitch play in the playoffs when they're exactly what we're talking about when we say he needs plays designed just for him in order for him to be involved in the offense.

Which players on the chiefs would you say have worse chemistry with Mahomes in your opinion?

Rasputin · 08-22-2021, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

You realize no one is saying he can't or doesn't make plays?

He's going to have big plays this year. He's going to have a couple good games. But what we want to see out of him is consistency. Can he be a guy Mahomes trusts to get 5 yards? 10 yards? 15? Or is he a guy who Reid and Mahomes have to design plays just for him in order to have an effect on the game the majority of the time?

It's weird that you specifically pointed out the screen pass and the pitch play in the playoffs when they're exactly what we're talking about when we say he needs plays designed just for him in order for him to be involved in the offense.

Which players on the chiefs would you say have worse chemistry with Mahomes in your opinion?

Look I don't give a **** if he is a gadget player or #2. What I care about is that he is a play maker and they design plays for him to make plays so we win ballgames. I pointed out that Mahomes called him out to make a play and he did just that. So his big play is discounted because it was a jet sweep or a screen pass? He made the plays that contributed to winning us the ball game. Guess what it is Andy Reid job to design plays for players to make plays in his offense and Hardman has made some big plays.

Why are you guys so hard up on giving him a chance to improve his game as a WR?

That's my question. you guys act like he can't or won't improve as a WR and I say that's bullshit.

-King- · 08-22-2021, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

Look I don't give a **** if he is a gadget player or #2. What I care about is that he is a play maker and they design plays for him to make plays so we win ballgames. I pointed out that Mahomes called him out to make a play and he did just that. So his big play is discounted because it was a jet sweep or a screen pass? He made the plays that contributed to winning us the ball game. Guess what it is Andy Reid job to design plays for players to make plays in his offense and Hardman has made some big plays.

Why are you guys so hard up on giving him a chance to improve his game as a WR?

That's my question. you guys act like he can't or won't improve as a WR and I say that's bullshit.

He had issues with Mahomes the past 2 years. So far, it seems like he has the same issues. You don't see the problem? Why is Mahomes getting pissed off at him in preseason? You don't think that's a problem?

And yeah, there's nothing wrong with Jet sweeps and pitches, especially when they work. But if you have to manufacture plays specifically for a player in order to get him involved, than that's not good. A WR2 should be a reliable option even when the play isn't for him. Mahomes should be able to know that a player can reliably get open and know where that player is going to be at the end of his route or during a scramble. It's obvious Mahomes doesn't really know where Hardman will be at the end of routes or on scramble drills. Disagree? Do you think that's a good or bad thing?

Rasputin · 08-22-2021, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

He had issues with Mahomes the past 2 years. So far, it seems like he has the same issues. You don't see the problem? Why is Mahomes getting pissed off at him in preseason? You don't think that's a problem?

And yeah, there's nothing wrong with Jet sweeps and pitches, especially when they work. But if you have to manufacture plays specifically for a player in order to get him involved, than that's not good. A WR2 should be a reliable option even when the play isn't for him. Mahomes should be able to know that a player can reliably get open and know where that player is going to be at the end of his route or during a scramble. It's obvious Mahomes doesn't really know where Hardman will be at the end of routes or on scramble drills. Disagree? Do you think that's a good or bad thing?

Do you think they can improve or not?

That's the question I say yes.

Tyreek was a gadget player his first couple years. We will see how the season unfolds I could be way wrong and then that will be on Veach to fix the problem but until the season unfolds I'm a believer in Hardman kicking ass this season.

That is my own opinion and opinions can be wrong but we will see.

Rasputin · 08-22-2021, 07:46 PM

Really issues his rookie season? A ****ing rookie having issues omfg!!

His second season never mind a makeshift offensive line that really made it hard for everyone but we still managed to go to the ****ing Super Bowl and Hardman made plays to help us get there. So many issues.

Hammock Parties · 08-22-2021, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

Tyreek was a gadget player his first couple years.

Factually incorrect.

-King- · 08-22-2021, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rasputin

Do you think they can improve or not?

That's the question I say yes.

Tyreek was a gadget player his first couple years. We will see how the season unfolds I could be way wrong and then that will be on Veach to fix the problem but until the season unfolds I'm a believer in Hardman kicking ass this season.

That is my own opinion and opinions can be wrong but we will see.

What the ****?!?! No he wasn't

. He was a gadget player for all of half a season until Andy made him a full-time WR. And then the next season he put himself in the conversation for top 5 WR in the league.

Abba-Dabba · 08-22-2021, 07:44 PM

Mecole is only 23, talented, low cap hit and doesn't have a history of injuries. He will be a Chief at least until the end of the 2022 season.

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Abba-Dabba MVP Join Date: May 2001 Casino cash: $3582970	Mecole is only 23, talented, low cap hit and doesn't have a history of injuries. He will be a Chief at least until the end of the 2022 season.
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