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Old 09-25-2021, 12:42 PM   #1
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Old 09-26-2021, 08:40 PM   #2
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Biggest indictment of Veach I’ve ever seen.


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Old 09-26-2021, 08:45 PM   #3
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Biggest indictment of Veach I’ve ever seen.


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Are you trolling us? Now, you want to fire Veach? The person most responsible for getting us our football savior? Really?

You realize we draft at the bottom of every round these days?
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Old 09-26-2021, 08:46 PM   #4
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Are you trolling us? Now, you want to fire Veach? The person most responsible for getting us our football savior? Really?
We're gonna need more from Veach's guys post Mahomes than we've had in the first three games.
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Old 09-26-2021, 09:15 PM   #5
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Are you trolling us? Now, you want to fire Veach? The person most responsible for getting us our football savior? Really?

You realize we draft at the bottom of every round these days?

Where did I say fire Veach?


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Old 09-26-2021, 09:24 PM   #6
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how about some clarification? What is this biggest indictment for? What’s the punishment if found guilty by a jury of peers?
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Old 09-26-2021, 10:05 PM   #7
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how about some clarification? What is this biggest indictment for? What’s the punishment if found guilty by a jury of peers?

That draft sucked ass. Punishment should be having staylor26 latched to your cock.

I suppose you loved that draft. Congrats!


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Are you trolling us? Now, you want to fire Veach? The person most responsible for getting us our football savior? Really?

You realize we draft at the bottom of every round these days?
Mahomes is the only pick in NFL history where people credit his scout for scouting him rather than the GM and coach who actually drafted him.
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Mahomes is the only pick in NFL history where people credit his scout for scouting him rather than the GM and coach who actually drafted him.
For good reason.
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For good reason.
Not really it's just mental gymnastics to credit Veach and discredit Dorsey.
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Old 09-26-2021, 10:06 PM   #11
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Not really it's just mental gymnastics to credit Veach and discredit Dorsey.
Unfortunately, that inability to appreciate the nuance is what leads to so many overreactions in the first place.

Veach becomes the GM and the Chiefs have success that first year= Veach is a God among men and should receive all credit for every success and no criticism for any failure. This leads to people overvaluing trades for players like Clark, which was a significant outlay of draft capital for the right to pay someone a big salary, and assuming that players like Edwards-Helaire and Hardman are plug-and-play All Pros.

It's no different than people treating Chris Jones like he's the greatest pass rusher of all-time in 2018 when he was simultaneously a massive liability against the run.

When things are going well everything and everyone is a GOAT. When a few bad weeks hit, the team is full of JAGs and the GM is a fraud. The truth is always between the poles.

Dorsey's significant errors in roster construction were overlooked while wins were coming in, but it doesn't mean they weren't present. As soon as he left, his scouts get all the credit for player selections that hit, and he gets all of the blame for the busts.

Pioli decided to use Semtex instead of concrete for the foundation of his teams, but the first two years were just "Pioli!"

It's always happened here. Probably happens everywhere else, too. I guess it's just the nature of sports fandom.
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Not really it's just mental gymnastics to credit Veach and discredit Dorsey.
John Dorsey has been fired by multiple teams. He also had ideal situations in both jobs and ****ed them both up
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