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Old 11-01-2021, 10:17 PM   #1
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We can't run it much more than we ran it tonight.

Gore and Darrel just aren't good enough for that. Barely 4 YPC as it is.

Stop dreaming of a game where our running backs carry it 30+ times. That is bad news if we try that.
You’re wrong.

This offenses effective balance is a power run game with play action. All of the OL are road graders and we struggle blocking the edge. Probably in the neighborhood of 55-45 pass to run.

The WRs outside of Hill and Kelce are bad at getting open and making plays. None of them are weapons as traditional route running receivers. Hardman runs fast and is a weapon as an extension of the running game, but struggles making an impact in other areas.

Josh Gordon isn’t keeping anyone up at night to scheme against.

So have Hill and Kelce as the receiving threats more and run the ball out of double tight more. This OL is a far better run blocking unit than pass blocking one and Pat is great at PA. Force teams to stop our running game more.

Brown doesn’t get exposed as much and gets to wear down his man. Same goes for Niang. That forces teams to bring those safeties down more.

This team isn’t built for long developing pass plays anymore.
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:20 PM   #2
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You’re wrong.

This offenses effective balance is a power run game with play action. All of the OL are road graders and struggle blocking the edge.
So we are Marty's Chiefs. 20-17 wins. Take our foot off the gas. Play for the field goal. Neuter the best players on our team. Never run outside because you have no one to run outside.

AWESOME!

**** youself.

PS - You were wrong about the defense. BITCH!
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:29 PM   #3
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So we are Marty's Chiefs. 20-17 wins. Take our foot off the gas. Play for the field goal. Neuter the best players on our team. Never run outside because you have no one to run outside.

AWESOME!

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PS - You were wrong about the defense. BITCH!
Nobody is saying to permanently go in that direction…but this team….with OTs that struggle to block the edges…hell yes.

We have 700 pounds of tackles and the best interior OL in the NFL.

Let them eat.
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:32 PM   #4
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Nobody is saying to permanently go in that direction…but this team….with OTs that struggle to block the edges…hell yes.

We have 700 pounds of tackles and the best interior OL in the NFL.

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Old 11-01-2021, 10:33 PM   #5
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Nobody is saying to permanently go in that direction…but this team….with OTs that struggle to block the edges…hell yes.

We have 700 pounds of tackles and the best interior OL in the NFL.

Let them eat.
They ate tonight. 21 carries for 4 YPC.

That's the best you're getting out of these backs, dude.

You think giving them the ball MORE is going to result in a better YPC?

Typically that is not the way it works.
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:38 PM   #6
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They ate tonight. 21 carries for 4 YPC.

That's the best you're getting out of these backs, dude.

You think giving them the ball MORE is going to result in a better YPC?

Typically that is not the way it works.
That’s EXACTLY the way it works with banger backs with big nasty OLs… we have 2 guys that can pair with this OL to wear defenses out and set them up for kill shots.

It’s the obvious counter punch to the defenses that have been frustrating Mahomes this year.
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That’s EXACTLY the way it works with banger backs with big nasty OLs… we have 2 guys that can pair with this OL to wear defenses out and set them up for kill shots.

It’s the obvious counter punch to the defenses that have been frustrating Mahomes this year.
No one is going to respect either of these RBs. They can't break a run over 10 yards.
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Old 11-01-2021, 10:48 PM   #8
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No one is going to respect either of these RBs. They can't break a run over 10 yards.
That's fine. They can keep not respecting it while we feed it to Gore all the way down the field for another TD.
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No one is going to respect either of these RBs. They can't break a run over 10 yards.
We have a SPECIAL run blocking OL.

Orlandis Gary could run for 1400 behind this OL.
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That’s EXACTLY the way it works with banger backs with big nasty OLs… we have 2 guys that can pair with this OL to wear defenses out and set them up for kill shots.

It’s the obvious counter punch to the defenses that have been frustrating Mahomes this year.
It's not 1990. There is no set them up for the kill shot, because the Chiefs have PATRICK f'n MAHOMES. It's not like if we have Ryan Tannehill that teams can cheat against. Teams will not expose themselves to that. If the Chiefs want to run, there is no better outcome. Whatever the Chiefs gain on the ground? Fine. Still gonna stay in my two deep. If we switch to run emphasis, we self contain the best player in the league. We must use Mahomes and the passing game to pressure defenses.
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They ate tonight. 21 carries for 4 YPC.

That's the best you're getting out of these backs, dude.

You think giving them the ball MORE is going to result in a better YPC?

Typically that is not the way it works.
No. But 21 carries for 4 will do a LOT to help this team win.

Clean up the turnovers and we'll beat more than just NFC East scrubasses by committing to running the ball and utilizing the short/intermediate passing game.
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You’re wrong.

This offenses effective balance is a power run game with play action. All of the OL are road graders and struggle blocking the edge. Probably in the neighborhood of 55-45 pass to run.

The WRs outside of Hill and Kelce are bad at getting open and making plays. None of them are weapons as traditional route running receivers. Hardman runs fast and is a weapon as an extension of the running game, but struggles making an impact in other areas.

Josh Gordon isn’t keeping anyone up at night to scheme against.

So have Hill and Kelce as the receiving threats more and run the ball out of double tight more. This OL is a far better run blocking unit than pass blocking one and Pat is great at PA. Force teams to stop our running game more.

Brown doesn’t get exposed as much and gets to wear down his man. Same goes for Niang. That forces teams to bring those safeties down more.

This team isn’t built for long developing pass plays anymore.
Good post.

If we go out and get another Receiver in the offseason, maybe things change. Right now we need to be a playaction offense.

Do we pay Orlando Brown or let him walk? He doesn't fit Mahomes's game.
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You’re wrong.

This offenses effective balance is a power run game with play action. All of the OL are road graders and we struggle blocking the edge. Probably in the neighborhood of 55-45 pass to run.

The WRs outside of Hill and Kelce are bad at getting open and making plays. None of them are weapons as traditional route running receivers. Hardman runs fast and is a weapon as an extension of the running game, but struggles making an impact in other areas.

Josh Gordon isn’t keeping anyone up at night to scheme against.

So have Hill and Kelce as the receiving threats more and run the ball out of double tight more. This OL is a far better run blocking unit than pass blocking one and Pat is great at PA. Force teams to stop our running game more.

Brown doesn’t get exposed as much and gets to wear down his man. Same goes for Niang. That forces teams to bring those safeties down more.

This team isn’t built for long developing pass plays anymore.
Kelce seems to have aged overnight. I feel like Hill is the only weapon out there right now and that's a big of a problem as any.
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Kelce seems to have aged overnight.
This seems to be something very few are wanting to discuss or believe. Kelce has been so great for so long and has taken a pounding for years. It seems to be starting to take a toll on him.
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Kelce seems to have aged overnight. I feel like Hill is the only weapon out there right now and that's a big of a problem as any.
Poor Kelce has been getting mugged & held coming off the line of scrimmage. None of the holding stuff seems to get called.
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