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Originally Posted by Chargem

I will never understand why people cannot remember deals. Funny starting your post talking about the math not adding up, but forgetting the Chiefs traded their 1st, 3rd and 4th 2021 picks and their 5th round pick in 2022 in exchange for the 2nd round pick of the Ravens in 2021, their 6th round pick in 2022 and Orlando Brown.

So sure, when you forget some of the picks we gave up, it was "two in, two out".

The various media outlets at the time basically said value wise, the Ravens 2nd for the Chiefs 3rd, 4th and 2022 pick swap was basically a wash, which is why people use the short hand of "1st round pick for OBJ".

I knew there were late round picks and omitted them because I just don't care. I've said it 100 times - I put effectively ZERO value on 5th round picks or beyond.

You wanna get in a knot over the 4th rounder - have at it. It's not moving the needle when you're talking about a trade involving a pro bowl tackle and a 1st round pick.

Anyone that told you a late 3rd and a late 4th (and some nothing of a pick swap) is the same as a second is very, very stupid. The second we got was pick 58. The 3rd and 4th we gave up were 94 and 136. Now from a mere 'trade calculator' perspective, the 94 and 136 will move you up to about the 86 pick (a far cry from 58). But admittedly, each year the draft is a bit different and different charts say different things.

So let's look at the ACTUAL draft. To move from 98 to 76 (again, a far cry from 58), the Saints had to give up pick 105 (a far more valuable pick than 136). So they gave up a significantly more valuable pick to move up half as far.

No, in no world does the Chiefs 3rd and 4th round picks (and a completely irrelevant pick swap) 'cancel out' the 2nd rounder.

It doesn't come close. The 'shorthand' is stupid.