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RunKC · 01-30-2022, 05:55 PM

Obviously we will try to keep OBJ and Ingram. Clark and Hitchens are probably gone.
I want Matheiu gone but I’m not sure Spags will let Veach do that. That will be interesting.

I think our #1 need has to be another receiving weapon. Mahomes went through slumps and a big part of that was the shit from Robinson and Pringle. They just aren’t good enough when Kelce and Reek are double covered.

We need to start a youth movement at DL, secondary and WR. Kelce, Jones, Ingram and Matheiu (whether he stays or goes) are starting to get old.

Basically WR, pass rush and secondary. I want Veach to attack those areas hard.

What do you think?

MahomesMagic · 01-30-2022, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

The O handed the game to the Bengals. 3 pts in 2nd half. All they had to do is match Bengals score rest of way out. Offense kept the defense on the field 3/4;of the 2nd half... Offense was a no show again against Bengals. This offense sputters way too much

We need a real #2 WR. We can beat shell but it's like playing left handed.

A legit #2 brings us back to 2018 offense.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 01-30-2022, 06:39 PM

The DL needs more players. The last 2 games out best Player Jones is on the sideline cause he’s gassed.

gold_and_red · 01-30-2022, 06:39 PM

Veach does not control the coaching staff but we need a fresh voice in there. Reid owns three huge choked leads with different QBs now. Bienemy comes across as a yes man who won't challenge Reid in critical situations. An OC can make a ton of difference to help out his struggling QB.

tmax63 · 01-30-2022, 06:56 PM

I don't know why #15 got rattled in the 2nd half but, push come to shove, the D didn't play the 2nd half except for the int. Some fresh blood at safety and CB is a must and an Edge is needed as well. I'm ready to move on from Spags as well. His history is a good D for a couple of years then it tails off. Fangio isn't a bad idea if it could ever happen.

CaliChief83 · 01-30-2022, 06:57 PM

Get rid of Clark, too much money for his production. HB gone also. I'm not sold on brown at LT either, he got worked at LT often and he's wanting the big bucks. Draft a wr to be our #2 or sign juju cheap. Need to rehaul of this defense in many spots

**The Franchise** · 01-30-2022, 06:58 PM

You guys are smoking crack if you think Reid is going to dump Spags at this point.

Chief Roundup · 01-30-2022, 06:59 PM

What should Veach accomplish this offseason?

Veach needs to inform Andy of several things.
That on offense they need to not ever let up or feel like they have it in the bag. EB needs to go regardless of whether or not he gets an NFL HC job.
That Spags need to go because he has not learned from his mistakes of when to and not to blitz and lateness of in game and player adjustments.

MahomesMagic · 01-30-2022, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

You guys are smoking crack if you think Reid is going to dump Spags at this point.

If we are retooling our defense it's worth considering a change.

Spags scheme needs elite safety play. If we aren't resigning HB we would need to find another guy of his caliber.

**RealSNR** · 01-30-2022, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

What should Veach accomplish this offseason?

Veach needs to inform Andy of several things.
That on offense they need to not ever let up or feel like they have it in the bag. EB needs to go regardless of whether or not he gets an NFL HC job.
That Spags need to go because he has not learned from his mistakes of when to and not to blitz and lateness of in game and player adjustments.

That's kind of par for the course when it comes to defensive coordinators, though.

Leslie Frazier had the #1 defense in the NFL. And in one game, some Bills fans wanted his ass fired.

I'm not defending Spags, only saying that we as fans usually want coordinators fired for just about any reason. Many times it's because they're actually bad at their jobs, but sometimes it's just because we're looking for scapegoats. And in this case, it's a, "Ehh... everything else is changing, so you may as well ditch the coordinator, too!"

TEX · 01-30-2022, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefshrink

No doubt. Cincy adjusted to our offense and we did nothing to their adjustments. For whatever reason that last failed possession before halftime messed with Pat's head you can tell because he looked rattled 2nd half.

All the more reason to just RUN the ball 3 times at the end of regulation from the 6. I'm betting they score a TD there and win it in regulation.

493rd · 01-30-2022, 07:09 PM

Finding a competent pass rush would be a good place to start. Bengals line gave up the 3rd most sacks in the league this year and we mustered 1. Absolutely pathetic. I want some guys who play hard every snap and are consistently a threat. Do we have a guy like that on this roster? Sure don’t. For all the talk about Chris Jones being disruptive he disappears games at a time. Clark sucks. Ingram is old. We need some playmakers on the D line. Let’s fix the D line first.

Jerm · 01-30-2022, 07:11 PM

This teams needs new voices…Bieniemy has ran the course of what he’s getting out of this offense…I’d have no issues if Spags went too.

Ron Swanson · 01-30-2022, 07:11 PM

Cut Sorenson, Niemann, and Clark.

Coochie liquor · 01-30-2022, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

What are you talking about? Defense did their job today.

WTF?? How many sacks did they get on yet another depleted offensive line. It’s a given, when we hear the opposing team has a banged up OL, they’re gonna win every time against our DL.

King_Chief_Fan · 01-30-2022, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

You guys are smoking crack if you think Reid is going to dump Spags at this point.

Then Andy should go too

01-30-2022, 05:55 PM
RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1720389	What should Veach accomplish this offseason? Obviously we will try to keep OBJ and Ingram. Clark and Hitchens are probably gone. I want Matheiu gone but I’m not sure Spags will let Veach do that. That will be interesting. I think our #1 need has to be another receiving weapon. Mahomes went through slumps and a big part of that was the shit from Robinson and Pringle. They just aren’t good enough when Kelce and Reek are double covered. We need to start a youth movement at DL, secondary and WR. Kelce, Jones, Ingram and Matheiu (whether he stays or goes) are starting to get old. Basically WR, pass rush and secondary. I want Veach to attack those areas hard. What do you think?
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tmax63 Veteran Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Colorado Casino cash: $433600	I don't know why #15 got rattled in the 2nd half but, push come to shove, the D didn't play the 2nd half except for the int. Some fresh blood at safety and CB is a must and an Edge is needed as well. I'm ready to move on from Spags as well. His history is a good D for a couple of years then it tails off. Fangio isn't a bad idea if it could ever happen. __________________ An armed member of society is a citizen, an unarmed member is a subject.
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493rd GDT Contributor Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: * Casino cash: $-559600	Finding a competent pass rush would be a good place to start. Bengals line gave up the 3rd most sacks in the league this year and we mustered 1. Absolutely pathetic. I want some guys who play hard every snap and are consistently a threat. Do we have a guy like that on this roster? Sure don’t. For all the talk about Chris Jones being disruptive he disappears games at a time. Clark sucks. Ingram is old. We need some playmakers on the D line. Let’s fix the D line first.
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