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Old 03-23-2022, 02:20 PM  
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Why did Miami do this deal?
Yes, most of us don’t care about other teams. But if you do, explain their rationale. It doesn’t make any sense on its face. You never say never in the NFL but does anyone think they can possibly win the division over Buffalo? Does anyone think this makes them better than NE?


1). BetUS moves Miami all the way up to 11th in the AFC, tied with Vegas at +3500 to win the SB. The Chiefs didn’t even budge, going from +800 to +850:
https://www.betus.com.pa/miscellaneo...k&promo=FLURRY

2). Vegas Insider puts them at 17th now to win SB:
https://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/odds/las-vegas/


This means they’re still a few slots away from even getting a WC road game. And they gave up a lot of draft capital and salary for the privilege. If Indy or Arizona or Dallas etc did this deal it makes sense.


Are they just desperate to make a splash?
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Old 03-23-2022, 05:05 PM   #76
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Old 03-23-2022, 05:14 PM   #77
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Old 03-23-2022, 05:15 PM   #78
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Old 03-23-2022, 05:16 PM   #79
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One of Hill’s best traits is getting open on the deep ball. Does Tua even have an arm that will capitalize on that?
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Old 03-23-2022, 05:17 PM   #80
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I'd take that to heart more if I didn't honestly mean my assessments, and if you actually rebutted them with countervailing facts.

When you characterize my perspective as condescending, it pretty much concedes that your gripe isn't so much that I'm wrong, but that I'm right and it's unpleasant to think about.

You are disgusted with a realistic view of the situation, but you transfer that disgust to my frankness.

And frankly, doxxing is about the most disgusting disappointing, . . . wait for it, . . . passive-aggressive, strategy I've seen anyone take.


This has been a disappointing development in a slow drip of disappointing developments, and the rebuttal has been 'everything is fine, so long as Mahomes.' And all I observe is that there isn't a lot of elevate the franchise outside Mahomes, and somehow that's heresy.

But yeah, I'm all alone in kookoo land
Perhaps I wasn’t clear about this:

The only reason I’m saying anything is because you’re wrong and you’ve been wrong about this team and it’s makeup since the day Patrick Mahomes was drafted. You have a problem with building around a drafted QB for some absurd reason AND you’re condescending and passive aggressive about it.

I give you rep comments about a great many things including football takes.

The only time I engage you like this is when you, once again, go in your stupid diatribes about team building and passively aggressively suggesting that those of us who wanted Mahomes are somehow now getting what we deserve. Don’t pretend that’s not what you’re doing either - MANY people have seen it, not just me.
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Old 03-23-2022, 05:27 PM   #81
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Perhaps I wasn’t clear about this:

The only reason I’m saying anything is because you’re wrong and you’ve been wrong about this team and it’s makeup since the day Patrick Mahomes was drafted. You have a problem with building around a drafted QB for some absurd reason AND you’re condescending and passive aggressive about it.

I give you rep comments about a great many things including football takes.

The only time I engage you like this is when you, once again, go in your stupid diatribes about team building and passively aggressively suggesting that those of us who wanted Mahomes are somehow now getting what we deserve. Don’t pretend that’s not what you’re doing either - MANY people have seen it, not just me.
I don't know if your assertion that I OPPOSE building around a drafted QB is just wrong or purposefully deceptive, and at this point the distinction is of little utility for me.

That has never been my position, and I've stated it clearly and unequivocally NUMEROUS times, . . . so it trends to purposefully lying to assert it against me now.

The point is, a drafted QB is supposed to be the foundation to give you a leg up, not a point to settle into the easy chair and say 'we did it' everything's fine now. We have the thing that will fix everything we neglect from here on out.

Buildng a winning franchise is a comprehensive effort, and if you aren't maximizing your potential, you're squandering it as it ages and gets richer and accumulated injuries.

Aside from his cap hit, there is nothing about acquiring Mahomes that says anyone in the building gets to take a breath and take it easy. And that's the problem I've been critical of. And the more time passes, the more his cap hit erodes our capacity to compensate top-level talent and effort, so pursuing excellence becomes a time-intesified endeavor as soon as you have that component that makes you a potential champion.

And none of that merits your tact with me. But I'm not your daddy, comport yourself as you see fit.
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Old 03-23-2022, 07:01 PM   #82
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Jesus, I was lurking on the Dolphins' board, and they are talking Tua as a probowler, division title, etc.

Their QB is a ****ing turd. You aren't doing shit without a decent one.
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Old 03-23-2022, 07:07 PM   #83
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Old 03-23-2022, 07:10 PM   #84
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I’m excited for the memes where hill is 70 yards downfield and looking bad with sadness as the ball flutters 15 yards short
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Old 03-23-2022, 07:35 PM   #85
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Jesus, I was lurking on the Dolphins' board, and they are talking Tua as a probowler, division title, etc.

Their QB is a ****ing turd. You aren't doing shit without a decent one.
They must be figuring that if they have enough weapons, surely Tua can hit one of them?

Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, Cedrick Wilson, and Mike Gesicki is a pretty sick set of receiving options. Edmonds and Gaskin are't bad out of the backfield either. I didn't include Parker because I expect they'll try to trade him now.

It all hinges on that OLine though. Tua needs alot of protection to be efficient. If Armstead can stay healthy, they could be decent.

Still can't fathom Tua performing at a level that upends both New England and Buffalo.
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They must be figuring that if they have enough weapons, surely Tua can hit one of them?

Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, Cedrick Wilson, and Mike Gesicki is a pretty sick set of receiving options. Edmonds and Gaskin are't bad out of the backfield either. I didn't include Parker because I expect they'll try to trade him now.

It all hinges on that OLine though. Tua needs alot of protection to be efficient. If Armstead can stay healthy, they could be decent.

Still can't fathom Tua performing at a level that upends both New England and Buffalo.
Alex Smith is his ceiling.
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Old 03-23-2022, 07:54 PM   #87
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Jesus, I was lurking on the Dolphins' board, and they are talking Tua as a probowler, division title, etc.

Their QB is a ****ing turd. You aren't doing shit without a decent one.
Tua is not a creator on his own. He's a distributor who should not have been on the field year 1 and had zero protection year 2.

He's more talented than Mac Jones who many NFL fans went crazy over. Cheetah plus Waddle is video game stuff and his new coach will be running the Shanahan system.

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They must be figuring that if they have enough weapons, surely Tua can hit one of them?

Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, Cedrick Wilson, and Mike Gesicki is a pretty sick set of receiving options. Edmonds and Gaskin are't bad out of the backfield either. I didn't include Parker because I expect they'll try to trade him now.

It all hinges on that OLine though. Tua needs alot of protection to be efficient. If Armstead can stay healthy, they could be decent.

Still can't fathom Tua performing at a level that upends both New England and Buffalo.
Maybe it’s the baker effect. This way the coaching staff can say look at all the tools he has and can’t win shit. Get me a different one.
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Old 03-23-2022, 08:30 PM   #90
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The answer is kind of the same when you ask why the Broncos did the deal they did for Russell Wilson.
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