Chiefs Chiefs Sign WR Marquez Valdes-Scantling

**dirk digler** · 03-25-2022, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I think Veach saw the writing on the wall, that our pass rush was likely to be even worse this year, and trying to **** the same chicken on offense with the rest of the AFC taking leaps forward wasn't going to do them any favors.

This move lets the Chiefs get stronger on defense in the short and long term, and reload the other skill positions on offense.

They took all their eggs out of one basket and distributed them.

It hurts to lose Tyreek but it's a calculated risk that you can see why they made it.

This also staggers the separation from Tyreek and Kelce which was likely going to happen at some point anyway.

This offense was going to go through some real growing pains if they had to get rid of both guys in the same year. Now they can ease that transition somewhat.

I think that is a fair point. I do think this defense though is going to be bad so offense is going to have to score alot.

TEX · 03-25-2022, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I think that is a fair point. I do think this defense though is going to be bad so offense is going to have to score alot.

Those are exactly my thoughts. And with losing Reek, I'm not sure the offense will be up to the task. Course we still have time to add...

TwistedChief · 03-25-2022, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Those are exactly my thoughts. And with losing Reek, I'm not sure the offense will be up to the task. Course we still have time to add...

How would you feel if we signed Ingram and Gilmore? Packaged 29 and 50 to trade up into the 15-20 range (Eagles have 3 picks there) and got a legit edge? Used 30 to draft a WR? Used 62 on a corner?

Would you then be able to sleep more peacefully at night?

**dirk digler** · 03-25-2022, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

How would you feel if we signed Ingram and Gilmore? Packaged 29 and 50 to trade up into the 15-20 range (Eagles have 3 picks there) and got a legit edge? Used 30 to draft a WR? Used 62 on a corner?

Would you then be able to sleep more peacefully at night?

I think Gilmore is done or close to it, Ingram is ok. We are going to have to count on lot of young guys\rookies so it is going to be a struggle IMO.

-King- · 03-25-2022, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I think Gilmore is done or close to it, Ingram is ok. We are going to have to count on lot of young guys\rookies so it is going to be a struggle IMO.

Seems like a self inflicted struggle.

**dirk digler** · 03-25-2022, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Seems like a self inflicted struggle.

I think on offense we will be relatively ok considering. Defense on the other hand could get ugly

htismaqe · 03-25-2022, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I think on offense we will be relatively ok considering. Defense on the other hand could get ugly

Good thing we're absolutely flush with high draft picks, huh?

TwistedChief · 03-25-2022, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I think Gilmore is done or close to it, Ingram is ok. We are going to have to count on lot of young guys\rookies so it is going to be a struggle IMO.

Ingram is okay? Seriously? Did you see what happened to our defense when he showed up?

Gilmore was a top-20 CB last year according to PFF. I know that has plenty of flaws, but please let me know what you're using to judge him so we can compare notes.

-King- · 03-25-2022, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Ingram is okay? Seriously? Did you see what happened to our defense when he showed up?

Gilmore was a top-20 CB last year according to PFF. I know that has plenty of flaws, but please let me know what you're using to judge him so we can compare notes.

Yeah but he was also on the field when we couldn't pressure the worst O-line in the NFL. Ingram is ok. I'd like to re-sign him but only as a rotational guy. There's no ****ing reason we should go into the season with him and Clark starting.

TwistedChief · 03-25-2022, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Yeah but he was also on the field when we couldn't pressure the worst O-line in the NFL. Ingram is ok. I'd like to re-sign him but only as a rotational guy. There's no ****ing reason we should go into the season with him and Clark starting.

LOL. You really are close to getting it.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had some extra draft picks we could package together and then trade up for an elite DE prospect who can solidify the position for years? Wouldn't that be nice?

Oh, no. We don't have those because we kept Hill.

**dirk digler** · 03-25-2022, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Ingram is okay? Seriously? Did you see what happened to our defense when he showed up?

Gilmore was a top-20 CB last year according to PFF. I know that has plenty of flaws, but please let me know what you're using to judge him so we can compare notes.

I said Ingram was ok, not that he sucked. He is 32 and has lots of mileage.

I got Gilmore confused with one of the other Pat's players, one of the McCourty brothers.