George Pickens

[TambaBerry]

Why isn't this kid being talked about? Injury of course but man when healthy he looks like an explosive receiver who can catch anything thrown his way. Would love to have him but I'm honestly not sure where he should go.

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

If you want him it will have to be in the first. He wont be there at 50.

I don't know about that, honestly.

Last year this board when nuts over Terrace Marshall Jr. with a whole bunch of "we're going to have to get him in the 1st" chatter. The two are very similar players. Both are around 6'2"-6'3" 200 pounds, fast, good catch radius, lack some route polish, etc. Where'd Marshall go? 59th overall. I would not assume he's going to go as high as people think.

There's alot of talent on the board between 30 and 50, including some really good safeties and corners that probably eat up 10 of those 20 picks. Then you have a few good edge rushers and offensive lineman sitting out there too. You probably need to factor in Dotson, Moore, and Watson at WR in that range as well.

There's a good chance he's there at 50. I don't think you have to get him at 30. If you're nervous, maybe move up a handful of spots into the 40's. Otherwise, there are other options.

[TambaBerry]

Pickens and marshall are no where near the same

[kccrow]

Originally Posted by TambaBerry

Pickens and marshall are no where near the same

You're right, Marshall was more productive and more athletic. Silly me.

[chiefforlife]

Originally Posted by kccrow

I don't know about that, honestly.

Last year this board when nuts over Terrace Marshall Jr. with a whole bunch of "we're going to have to get him in the 1st" chatter. The two are very similar players. Both are around 6'2"-6'3" 200 pounds, fast, good catch radius, lack some route polish, etc. Where'd Marshall go? 59th overall. I would not assume he's going to go as high as people think.

There's alot of talent on the board between 30 and 50, including some really good safeties and corners that probably eat up 10 of those 20 picks. Then you have a few good edge rushers and offensive lineman sitting out there too. You probably need to factor in Dotson, Moore, and Watson at WR in that range as well.

There's a good chance he's there at 50. I don't think you have to get him at 30. If you're nervous, maybe move up a handful of spots into the 40's. Otherwise, there are other options.

Really good point. I hope you're right he has become one of my favorite WRs.

[La0laEsMia]

Pickens is one of the few WRs in this draft who actually has potential to be a true no.1 receiver. He doesn't have the sample size but I think he will go in the 1st round due to the need at the position for other teams and the general few top level talents at the WR position in this draft. He's only 21 years old. Someone will take a chance on him in the 1st. I personally hope its the Chiefs. I like him more than I like just about everyone except Jameson Williams and Garret Wilson at the position.

[The Franchise]

Per PFF's charting, Georgia WR George Pickens has the majority of targets on two routes.

Pickens (6'3/200) wasn't utilized very much at Georgia. The run-first approach for the Bulldogs worked in bringing a national championship to Athens but developing and utilizing a great prospect like Pickens was subpar at best. In the limited usage that Pickens did receive, he was targeted heavily on two routes. Per PFF, he was targeted 34% of the time on go routes and 33% on hitches. With the other 33%, the highest any other route had was 7% (out). When he gets to the NFL, route running will need to be a focus for the fringe first-round selection.

This concerns me.

[In58men]

^^^ This is why we need to trade for McLaurin

[kccrow]

I said early on, typical GA WR. Not coached up very well. They suck at route running and understanding route concepts. He has a higher than normal learning curve. What puts him on the map is that he's big, he's fast, and has caught everything thrown his way so far. I say so far with a caveat that he didn't have too many catches in traffic like some other guys on the list. What's going to happen on those inside slants and digs?

There are question marks with Pickens I wouldn't have with other WRs. I'd love him at 50 but 30 is really pushing it for me.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by The Franchise

Per PFF's charting, Georgia WR George Pickens has the majority of targets on two routes.

Pickens (6'3/200) wasn't utilized very much at Georgia. The run-first approach for the Bulldogs worked in bringing a national championship to Athens but developing and utilizing a great prospect like Pickens was subpar at best. In the limited usage that Pickens did receive, he was targeted heavily on two routes. Per PFF, he was targeted 34% of the time on go routes and 33% on hitches. With the other 33%, the highest any other route had was 7% (out). When he gets to the NFL, route running will need to be a focus for the fringe first-round selection.

This concerns me.

Yeah, it's an issue.

I don't understand why any elite pass catching prospect would want to go to Georgia.

As I keep saying, if you're looking at the big/fast/outside WR types who could be there at 30 or 50, both Pickens and Watson have some question marks. They're roughly equivalent in my book as a result.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by La0laEsMia

Pickens is one of the few WRs in this draft who actually has potential to be a true no.1 receiver. He doesn't have the sample size but I think he will go in the 1st round due to the need at the position for other teams and the general few top level talents at the WR position in this draft. He's only 21 years old. Someone will take a chance on him in the 1st. I personally hope its the Chiefs. I like him more than I like just about everyone except Jameson Williams and Garret Wilson at the position.

I don't see #1 potential.

He looks like he could be a Marvin Jones to me. Good player that will get play but not the alpha.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

I don't see #1 potential.

He looks like he could be a Marvin Jones to me. Good player that will get play but not the alpha.

That's just nuts.

If you want to feel like there's a possibility of a low floor, yeah, okay, I'll grant you that. It's possible that he just can't learn an NFL route tree (although I don't really understand how that's possible, to be honest. I mean, it's a ****ing route. We have coaches, and mini-camps, and more coaching, and training camp, and lots of film. How the hell can you not learn to run a route?)

But to say that a 6'3" guy that's 200 pounds, with excellent body control, plus speed, a seriously aggressive attitude and fantastic hands doesn't have #1 potential is absurd.

He ABSOLUTELY has #1 potential.

He could also bust, and the likelihood of that can be debated.

[staylor26]

Yea, not sure how you can watch Pickens and not come away at least seeing WR1 upside.

He’s bigger, stronger, and just as fast as Marvin Jones.

And he clearly has “alpha” qualities. Just look at how he bullies guys in the run game.

[Chris Meck]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea, not sure how you can watch Pickens and not come away at least seeing WR1 upside.

He’s bigger, stronger, and just as fast as Marvin Jones.

And he clearly has “alpha” qualities. Just look at how he bullies guys in the run game.

The attitude on display is what gets me. It tells me that the only way Pickens busts is due to injury. The dude walks on the field ready to kick ass. If he busts it won't be because he didn't care or didn't try.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

That's just nuts.

If you want to feel like there's a possibility of a low floor, yeah, okay, I'll grant you that. It's possible that he just can't learn an NFL route tree (although I don't really understand how that's possible, to be honest. I mean, it's a ****ing route. We have coaches, and mini-camps, and more coaching, and training camp, and lots of film. How the hell can you not learn to run a route?)

But to say that a 6'3" guy that's 200 pounds, with excellent body control, plus speed, a seriously aggressive attitude and fantastic hands doesn't have #1 potential is absurd.

He ABSOLUTELY has #1 potential.

He could also bust, and the likelihood of that can be debated.

We will have to disagree here. I think you are a very smart poster on football but we just see it differently on this player.

And that's OK.

I would love for us to draft him, I undersell him and he makes me look dumb

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Yea, not sure how you can watch Pickens and not come away at least seeing WR1 upside.

He’s bigger, stronger, and just as fast as Marvin Jones.

And he clearly has “alpha” qualities. Just look at how he bullies guys in the run game.

I like Pickens more than Watson who I hate.

But if we get him it's where. 1st round is meh where I see him. 2nd is fine.