2023 Cap Discussion

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Don’t understand not paying Juju even if it’s $24 million average.

His first year in 2023 will be cheap, then in 2024 you cut MVS to get $12 million and still have Toney, Skyy and whatever rookie you want to draft.

We saw what not having a presence like Sammy Watkins did to us for years. Don’t let Juju walk

No way in hell should we go $24 mil/yr for Juju. I'd do up to like $18 or so, but Tyreek is basically on a $24 mil/yr contract in Miami. It's essentially a 4 yr $95 mil contract because that last year he has a $50 mil cap hit and only $5 mil in dead cap.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by RunKC

Don’t understand not paying Juju even if it’s $24 million average.

His first year in 2023 will be cheap, then in 2024 you cut MVS to get $12 million and still have Toney, Skyy and whatever rookie you want to draft.

We saw what not having a presence like Sammy Watkins did to us for years. Don’t let Juju walk

Please tell me that’s a typo.

No way in hell do you pay a #2 WR 24m aav. Juju is a good WR, don’t get me wrong…but he’s far from Davante Adams or other WR in that pay bracket.

I’d be perfect with giving Juju a 3 year extension for around 45m total with half fully guaranteed, but past that is probably better to pass and let him get that deal in FA so we max a comp pick.

Would be nice to lose Bienemy to a HC spot to get another 3rd rounder in this next draft and the one after that.

[JPH83]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Please tell me that’s a typo.

No way in hell do you pay a #2 WR 24m aav. Juju is a good WR, don’t get me wrong…but he’s far from Davante Adams or other WR in that pay bracket.

I’d be perfect with giving Juju a 3 year extension for around 45m total with half fully guaranteed, but past that is probably better to pass and let him get that deal in FA so we max a comp pick.

Would be nice to lose Bienemy to a HC spot to get another 3rd rounder in this next draft and the one after that.

If JJSS plays for the rest of the year like the SF game then I'd happily pay what you're suggesting, he'd be worth it. Until that point I was in the "let him walk" camp but if something has clicked and they've worked out his usage, cool, $14-15m a year is fine. I just don't think he's a guy worth more outside of a team with Mahomes.

I'd have been tempted to ditch MVS like Chris to free up some of that money. But I can see he is a different piece of the puzzle and prioritising JJSS and letting MVS go probably leaves you with more guys doing the same things in the same areas of the field. I don't particularly rate MVS but I can see value I guess, just about.

If it came down to Bolton or Gay we obviously prioritise Bolton. I like both but he's waaaay more important than Gay, it isn't as hard as it used to be finding big, fast guys at LB. It IS hard finding smart LBs who can process quickly. If Bolton wants Warner money it might be a problem, because he aint Warner. But Milano type money, maybe a little more, absolutely. I like Gay but I think we can do without him/find a replacement.

I'd probably extend Sneed now, Creed and Smith - I know we're good at churning through IOL and CBs but I'd keep some stability. If it comes down to it Smith obviously goes. I'd prioritise keeping Creed on number 1 centre money over keeping Smith on a decent wedge.