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Old 11-15-2022, 05:08 PM  
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Old 11-15-2022, 07:51 PM   #91
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They'll stay at TSC, raze Kaufmann, build new arrowhead, then put in shopping/bars at old Arrowhead.

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Nope. If you listened to Clark's last press conference about the subject, everything was based on the Royals staying at Truman and improving things. With the Royals moving he had no interest in staying at Truman.
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Old 11-15-2022, 07:52 PM   #92
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Old 11-15-2022, 07:57 PM   #93
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I see both sides of this discussion. I started going to Kaufman in the 70s and it’s full of nostalgia for me.

That said, I find it hard to believe those that hate downtown stadiums have ever been to one.

Petco here in San Diego is fantastic. It has plenty of parking, public transit dropoff a block away, and countless restaurants and bars within walking distance for pregame food and beverage that ultimately is much cheaper than inside the stadium.

Done right, it can still be iconic, and it WILL help the surrounding area from a revenue/development perspective
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Old 11-15-2022, 07:59 PM   #94
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Nope. If you listened to Clark's last press conference about the subject, everything was based on the Royals staying at Truman and improving things. With the Royals moving he had no interest in staying at Truman.
I don't think he communicated that. In July he said he wanted to stay at Arrowhead and have it renovated.

“That process is ongoing,” Hunt told reporters. “We are very hopeful that we will be able to renovate GEHA Field at Arrowhead Stadium when the time comes. We’re probably still a year plus away from being able to make that determination.”
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:01 PM   #95
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I see both sides of this discussion. I started going to Kaufman in the 70s and it’s full of nostalgia for me.

That said, I find it hard to believe those that hate downtown stadiums have ever been to one.

Petco here in San Diego is fantastic. It has plenty of parking, public transit dropoff a block away, and countless restaurants and bars within walking distance for pregame food and beverage that ultimately is much cheaper than inside the stadium.

Done right, it can still be iconic, and it WILL help the surrounding area from a revenue/development perspective
Gigantic ****ing Applebees is what it'll be.
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I've never loved the location for baseball and would be curious to know if a ballpark in a downtown or district location actually does help a ton when it comes to development around it, jobs, $$$, etc.



At least it's not like the Diamondbacks, who want to ditch their retractable-roof stadium with restaurants and what not after only 20 years.
The LoDo area of Denver was a rundown collection of old buildings and warehouses before Coors Field was built. Now it's arguably the most active area of the city. I bet someone out there has quantified it, but I don't think there's any question it's been a huge success.


EDIT: Here's an article about it.

https://www.denverpost.com/2017/06/0...mart-politics/
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:09 PM   #98
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Gigantic ****ing Applebees is what it'll be.

If that’s the target market, I guess?

Not even close to that in San Diego, but different locales obviously
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:12 PM   #99
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Dare to dream a little bigger. The Royals are.

Think, business part + stadium + community center. So, 3 footprints big enought for a stadium, running West-to-East.

I think it's in that general neighborhood but a little further south.
The site down by Urban Academy and Negro League museum?
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I was a server there for lunch during college golf season. Worst four months of my life. You are eating 40% microwaved food.
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I feel they squeezed in Target field to a very small spot.
That is a small location, but it benefitted from the parking garages and the train, etc already next to it.
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Old 11-15-2022, 08:18 PM   #102
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If that’s the target market, I guess?

Not even close to that in San Diego, but different locales obviously
It'll absolutely be a bunch of chain bullshit. There won't be a single thing in walking distance that's actually legit KC. As in, born raised, made their salt here.

This is why I hate these types of projects. Before they put the Sprint Center in, the Crossroads area was organically beginning to thrive; arts and music and all locally owned businesses. Then Power and Blight, almost entirely chain shit from out of state. Locals are slowly getting pushed out as the developers snatch up real estate for rich people who want to live in a 'hip, urban environment', but actually hate everything about that and actually just turn it all into a whitewashed dystopia of chain restaurants, Starbucks, and some ****ing Toby Keith's yeehaw ****ing asshole bars.

Whether they plop this down right in the Crossroads district or just north, this will drive the real estate prices so high there won't be a local business anywhere in that area in 10 years. It'll all be ****ing Applebees and bullshit like that. Giant ****ing strip mall. Yay. Progress. Is this downtown Cleveland? No, Kansas City? Huh. Same difference, I guess.

****in' yuck.
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I was a server there for lunch during college golf season. Worst four months of my life. You are eating 40% microwaved food.
Cool, well, you'll get to enjoy it 81 times a year soon. Bon Appetit!
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That is a small location, but it benefitted from the parking garages and the train, etc already next to it.
Truthfully cannot remember if the light rail was there or not. But the garages help. Target Center-basketball was there. Ok to get in. getting out of the garages is hell.

More people today go to a game then get out of dodge when it is dark

That is the bigger waste of money. light rail.
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