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cmh6476 · 02:14 PM

In case anyone needs it spelled out, we would play at a neutral site if the AFCCG ends up being Chiefs vs. Bills. All other scenarios abide by the usual rules (so any other game the Chiefs play will be at home).

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tredadda · 01-04-2023, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

There's precedent for holding teams to their decisions. Read this interesting article about the 1932 NFL Championship Game, which the two teams decided to play indoors on a modified hockey rink.

https://ninetynineyards.com/2020/04/...e-games-1930s/

Seriously, read the article because it's great. The teams modified a bunch of rules to account for a small field, and when it was over the losing team (Portsmouth Spartans) was unhappy with the outcome. Here was the response.

NFL president Joe Carr was having none of it. He was quoted as saying, “You fellows decided to play for the championship in the Stadium. You knew in advance the field was small. You should have known that the smallness of the so-called Stadium gridiron would preclude real football and prevent both sides from executing many of the plays at your command. But since you announced that the championship would hinge on the indoor game, the Bears must be declared champions of our league… You made your bed and now you must lie in it, so there can be no more games between the Bears and Spartans this year which will count in the league standing.”

Roger Goodell needs to take a play from the Joe Carr playbook. The Bills pulled their team off the field. They made their bed and now they must lie in it.

Agreed, but Joe Carr didn’t have to deal with the Twitter mob. Goodell does and will probably cave.

**chiefforlife** · 01-04-2023, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ThyKingdomCome15

The national media would run wild if BUF recieved a forfeit for this game. I don't see it happening, but I don't disagree with you either.

Yes absolutely they would. Its a tough decision and we dont have a tough Commissioner willing to make those decisions.

I think Buffalo could gain a ton of respect by accepting the forfeit. Come out with a statement, "We decided that Damars life was more important than one game and are showing that by taking the forfeit." BOOM! Most loved team in the playoffs.

Honestly, them taking the loss is the only way forward without affecting other teams. Either the league decides for them or they step up and do it themselves.

This lets the Commish off the hook, saves face and the Bills look great. I wouldnt be surprised if the league suggests this to the Bills.

TwistedChief · 01-04-2023, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

Except for they are not.
NFLPA and Owners have entered chat...

Wrong again:

https://twitter.com/DVNJr/status/161...ded-games-n%2F

Sassy Squatch · 01-04-2023, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Wrong again:

https://twitter.com/DVNJr/status/161...ded-games-n%2F

Well, doesn't that pretty much state they CAN'T terminate the game?

Spott · 01-04-2023, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

what a ****

Kayvon Thibodeaux, asked about Colts HC Jeff Saturday ripping his celebration:

“I don’t know who he is. So I’m not really too concerned about people who comment on me & I don’t know them.”

He says he’s paid to be a savage & sack QBs

Thibodeaux hopes Nick Foles gets better
— Pat Leonard (@PLeonardNYDN) January 4, 2023

Kind of makes it hard to feel sorry for NFL players when you have this guy acting like a complete assclown while a dude is unconscious on the field two feet away from him.

Marcellus · 01-04-2023, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

I have heard several former NFL players say they think they are invincible because they are young and dying on the field is not something they think about.

Pat said today it will be weird playing

Mahomes noted the Chiefs will play the first game after the Hamlin scare on Saturday against the Raiders and said, "I'm sure there will be a little bit of a weird feeling.''
— Adam Teicher (@adamteicher) January 4, 2023

But see, the thing is they will be playing.

I get watching it was shocking and frankly I don't think they should have finished the game that night, but this has gotten ridiculous. There was plenty of time to make the game up this week.

tk13 · 01-04-2023, 01:57 PM

This isn't some dude who broke his leg or a guy who died in his hotel room, this was a routine tackle that happens 100 times a game and his heart stopped. He didn't make a mistake. It wasn't some fluke. It was something these guys are going to have to go out and do 100 more times this weekend. People are seriously, seriously underestimating that factor into all this. On here, on TV, on Twitter. This was a truly shocking play because of how routine it was.

Things will get back to normal but I'd bet money everyone on every team is going to feel weird stepping back out there this weekend. I wouldn't be shocked if some guys have a real hard time with contact this weekend. It's going to take a minute to get back in that routine where you're not thinking about that play and the game becomes natural again. Doesn't matter how old they are.

TwistedChief · 01-04-2023, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Well, doesn't that pretty much state they CAN'T terminate the game?

I read it as basically saying Goodell can do whatever he wants in the matter, including terminating the game if he sees fit to do so.

I'm sure he's talking to all the stakeholders including the teams, owners, and the NFLPA and getting their input, but it's going to be his call.

HC_Chief · 01-04-2023, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Wrong again:

https://twitter.com/DVNJr/status/161...ded-games-n%2F

That rule applies to emergency situations. It says it in the title and in the body, as well as spells out what an emergency situation entails.

You can try to jump through semantic hoops to classify a single player's tragic injury as an "emergency" if you want, but doubt that'll hold up under scrutiny. Esp w/ the NFL owners and Player Association.
In other words, that is a facile argument.

TwistedChief · 01-04-2023, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

That rule applies to emergency situations. It says it in the title and in the body, as well as spells out what an emergency situation entails.

You can try to jump through semantic hoops to classify a single player's tragic injury as an "emergency" if you want, but doubt that'll hold up under scrutiny. Esp w/ the NFL owners and Player Association.

LOL. Okay, dude. Guess who determines what constitutes an "emergency"? I'll give you one guess and his initials are R.G.

Sassy Squatch · 01-04-2023, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I read it as basically saying Goodell can do whatever he wants in the matter, including terminating the game if he sees fit to do so.

I'm sure he's talking to all the stakeholders including the teams, owners, and the NFLPA and getting their input, but it's going to be his call.

There's absolutely no argument to be made that terminating this game wouldn't significantly affect 'inter-team competitive issues'. None. That may very well be why this has evolved into such a cluster****. Because they can't actually terminate the game based on that rule.

Marcellus · 01-04-2023, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

This isn't some dude who broke his leg or a guy who died in his hotel room, this was a routine tackle that happens 100 times a game and his heart stopped. He didn't make a mistake. It wasn't some fluke. It was something these guys are going to have to go out and do 100 more times this weekend. People are seriously, seriously underestimating that factor into all this. On here, on TV, on Twitter. This was a truly shocking play because of how routine it was.

Things will get back to normal but I'd bet money everyone on every team is going to feel weird stepping back out there this weekend. I wouldn't be shocked if some guys have a real hard time with contact this weekend. It's going to take a minute to get back in that routine where you're not thinking about that play and the game becomes natural again. Doesn't matter how old they are.

If you made it all the way to the NFL without ever seeing a serious injury on the football field then you have to be a Unicorn.

staylor26 · 01-04-2023, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

And it's astonishing how much you act like very challenging decisions should be no big deal. You're talking about probably 1500-2000 total workers involved in this. Alcohol delivery. Food delivery. Custodial staff. Police. Emergency medical. The Bills would need to launder all of the uniforms outside of their normal facility. The grounds crew needs to re-inspect the field and possibly make repairs. Most refs have day jobs that they'd have to reschedule around. Charter airlines don't let their planes sit around, so even getting the Bills back there could be a challenge.

I'm not saying it's impossible, and I certainly think it could happen with a few days to work it out. But you act like every single aspect of this is as clear as day and it should have been no big deal to play the game the next day. It takes a LOT of work to put on a sports event.

Also, talk about a strawman!

Why do you ****ing morons keep pretending that we're saying this game HAD to be played the very next day.

Absolutely nobody is saying this.

It could've been played Tues, Wed, or Thur. Take your ****ing pick.

HC_Chief · 01-04-2023, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

LOL. Okay, dude. Guess who determines what constitutes an "emergency"? I'll give you one guess and his initials are R.G.

"In the opinion of appropriate league authorities"
Plural. That means Goodell requires consensus. Gee, I wonder with whom? His mirror?

F A C I L E

tredadda · 01-04-2023, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

Now make an argument that isn't a complete strawman, you dolt.

Everyone needs to stop using the word strawman. It’s going to draw some of DCs finest out here like the Batman logo in the sky.

01-03-2023, 08:15 AM
cmh6476 Keep Camp Home! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Joe MO Casino cash: $-973723	Bills/ Bengals [cancelled - process in OP] In case anyone needs it spelled out, we would play at a neutral site if the AFCCG ends up being Chiefs vs. Bills. All other scenarios abide by the usual rules (so any other game the Chiefs play will be at home). Old posts: Spoiler! The NFL will consider a neutral site for the AFC Championship Game. Full details: pic.twitter.com/oi3fItUWIj — Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 6, 2023 Breaking News: Of course the game is secondary to #DamarHamlin’s health, but #Bills insider @viccarucci just reported on @wgrz Daybreak that NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will make the call on rescheduling the Bills/Bengals game and it would have to be played within 2 days. — Melissa Holmes (@2MelissaHolmes) January 3, 2023 There is another option according to @viccarucci - the league can add a 19th week so the Bills/Bengals can get in all their games. @wgrz https://t.co/1X1hCHVN8c — Melissa Holmes (@2MelissaHolmes) January 3, 2023 I assume we'll hear something soon After speaking with both teams and NFLPA leadership, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell informed the clubs today that the Bills-Bengals game will not be resumed this week. The NFL has made no decision regarding the possible resumption of the game at a later date. — Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 3, 2023 Last edited by DaFace; 01-09-2023 at 02:14 PM..
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01-04-2023, 01:57 PM	#1642
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1827500	This isn't some dude who broke his leg or a guy who died in his hotel room, this was a routine tackle that happens 100 times a game and his heart stopped. He didn't make a mistake. It wasn't some fluke. It was something these guys are going to have to go out and do 100 more times this weekend. People are seriously, seriously underestimating that factor into all this. On here, on TV, on Twitter. This was a truly shocking play because of how routine it was. Things will get back to normal but I'd bet money everyone on every team is going to feel weird stepping back out there this weekend. I wouldn't be shocked if some guys have a real hard time with contact this weekend. It's going to take a minute to get back in that routine where you're not thinking about that play and the game becomes natural again. Doesn't matter how old they are.
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