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cmh6476 · 02:14 PM

In case anyone needs it spelled out, we would play at a neutral site if the AFCCG ends up being Chiefs vs. Bills. All other scenarios abide by the usual rules (so any other game the Chiefs play will be at home).

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SithCeNtZ · 01-05-2023, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

What do you find so ridiculous?

They postponed the game and as of yet haven't made any determination further.

They're playing all week 18 games.

That's what the NFL has done.

We are 2 full business days clear of the event and nothing has been decided or even hinted at when anyone will know anything. The fact that the Chiefs could theoretically play once in the next 23 days and not play a playoff game yet OR play 4 times in the next 24 days and clinch a super bowl birth is ridiculous. We have no idea which situation is more plausible because no one knows anything. This is a billion dollar industry that probably thought they could find a magical solution to make everyone happy but when they found out they couldn't, they have chosen to just stay silent on the matter. It's wild you have teams playing their last game of the year not knowing what the stakes are.

TwistedChief · 01-05-2023, 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Why Not?

The Bengals would still be playing for the 2 seed regardless of what KC does. If the Bills had beaten the Bengals, the Chiefs would not rest anyone due to the fact that the Bills would still have a shot to lose to NE in week 18. These scenarios have been covered many times here this week.

Not to mention the fact that if you want to complain about game order--

If the Bills had beaten the Bengals and then the Chiefs lost to the Raiders, the Bills would have the 1 seed and wouldn't have to try against the Patriots, which would gift them a playoff spot. How ridiculous is that for the Dolphins and Steelers who are in competition for that last playoff spot?

The above a much bigger problem in the game order than what we're facing because - as mentioned endlessly - Cincy benefits massively from potentially having the 2 seed. They guarantee themselves a home game if they end up facing the Bills and have a very legitimate shot at hosting an AFCCG if the Chiefs slip up in the divisional round.

And now at least the Bills are forced to actually play for something this weekend regardless of how the Chiefs game ends up.

TwistedChief · 01-05-2023, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ

We are 2 full business days clear of the event and nothing has been decided or even hinted at when anyone will know anything. The fact that the Chiefs could theoretically play once in the next 23 days and not play a playoff game yet OR play 4 times in the next 24 days and clinch a super bowl birth is ridiculous. We have no idea which situation is more plausible because no one knows anything. This is a billion dollar industry that probably thought they could find a magical solution to make everyone happy but when they found out they couldn't, they have chosen to just stay silent on the matter. It's wild you have teams playing their last game of the year not knowing what the stakes are.

I'm confused. Is any team less incentivized in its game this weekend than it otherwise would be? The Chiefs - in a normal scenario - already would have no idea whether they would be playing 1 time in the next 9 days or 1 time in the next 15 days or 2 times in the next 15 days or 3 times in the next 22 days. Is the added uncertainty of your scenarios going to change the way they plan or prepare or play on Saturday, and if so, how and why?

**Bearcat** · 01-05-2023, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

What do you find so ridiculous?

They postponed the game and as of yet haven't made any determination further.

They're playing all week 18 games.

That's what the NFL has done.

Social media is pretty awful at times like this, because all the speculation makes it seem like the NFL needs immediate answers if for no other reason than for people to shut the hell up about what might happen.... but I do hope the NFL actually learns from it.

It's not the end of times that they don't (seemingly) know what to do right now, but really, they should have already known to a large extent how to handle it. Companies have entire departments dedicated to worst case scenarios that may never happen.

And hell, maybe the NFL did have a plan and for whatever reason went off script, or maybe this is the plan and one day we'll learn what happened and it'll somehow make sense.

**BigRedChief** · 01-05-2023, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu

Given it sounds like the Bengals have been fully on board with not resuming this week this is the only thing that makes sense. Bills lose a chance at one seed but that could have been the case no matter what by their game. The Bengals and Ravens get a bit screwed as well but the Ravens probably had no chance of winning without Jackson anyways. Those hoping for a Patriots loss aren’t as happy depending on what the Bills but again that could have been the situation anyways. But I’m guessing Bills might play anyways.

Why not? They should feel confident they can beat the Bills. They have beat us 3X in one year so far, twice in our house. Until we knock them off, they have every right to their swagger.

irafreak · 01-05-2023, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah but that's not a political thing. Brett Favre is probably the complete opposite politically but he's also a huge activist against kids playing football.

There will be plenty of kids wanting their shot at fame and fortune. Football won't go anywhere in our lifetime. Don't care how bad it gets. Kids want to play sports. Lots of kids out there.

**BigRedChief** · 01-05-2023, 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

Social media is pretty awful at times like this, because all the speculation makes it seem like the NFL needs immediate answers if for no other reason than for people to shut the hell up about what might happen.... but I do hope the NFL actually learns from it.

It's not the end of times that they don't (seemingly) know what to do right now, but really, they should have already known to a large extent how to handle it. Companies have entire departments dedicated to worst case scenarios that may never happen.

And hell, maybe the NFL did have a plan and for whatever reason went off script, or maybe this is the plan and one day we'll learn what happened and it'll somehow make sense.

I just cant believe they didn't already have a plan for a serious life threating injury to a player, a coach drops dead from a heart attack etc.

Terrorism. a fan brings a gun in and gets mad and shoots opposing teams fans or players. etc. etc.

Sassy Squatch · 01-05-2023, 08:47 AM

I think the Ravens and their fans would be content with Jackson even playing at this point, not worrying about what seed they get in the playoffs. According to the Athletic Harbaugh expected Jackson back by now so things may be headed for an ugly divorce.

"He (Harbaugh) clearly thinks Lamar should be back. He's trying to stay out of it and take the high road."

IamBATMAN · 01-05-2023, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

I just cant believe they didn't already have a plan for a serious life threating injury to a player, a coach drops dead from a heart attack etc.

Terrorism. a fan brings a gun in and gets mad and shoots opposing teams fans or players. etc. etc.

TwistedChief · 01-05-2023, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

And hell, maybe the NFL did have a plan and for whatever reason went off script, or maybe this is the plan and one day we'll learn what happened and it'll somehow make sense.

I'm sure they have vague plans for this sort of thing on some level - covid naturall required them to go above and beyond in terms of thinking about contingencies - and the plan for multiple game cancellations was to add an extra week to the regular season and push the playoffs back a week.

As this is only one game and I'm sure pushing everything back is not ideal, they're in a fuzzier place. But it's not like everything is completely cookie cutter in this situation as it relates to the teams, the relevant seedings, and time of the season, etc.

SithCeNtZ · 01-05-2023, 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TwistedChief

I'm confused. Is any team less incentivized in its game this weekend than it otherwise would be? The Chiefs - in a normal scenario - already would have no idea whether they would be playing 1 time in the next 9 days or 1 time in the next 15 days or 2 times in the next 15 days or 3 times in the next 22 days. Is the added uncertainty of your scenarios going to change the way they plan or prepare or play on Saturday, and if so, how and why?

The teams themselves yes want to win, but individual player choices can absolutely be impacted. Take Lamar and the Ravens. If they get a bye week next week they might just decide the game isn't worth it and let him get another week or two rest. Or maybe you roll the dice and play him twice in 9 days. I bet there are lots of choices that could hang in the balance of a random bye week being added to the schedule. To say this doesn't impact any strategy because the teams generally want to win is simply not correct.

**BigRedChief** · 01-05-2023, 08:54 AM

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FBI enters the chat....

Those overseer's already know who bigredchief really is, my whole history, what my co-workers, neighbors think about me. And because of a leak, so do the Chinese.

DrunkBassGuitar · 01-05-2023, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ

We are 2 full business days clear of the event and nothing has been decided or even hinted at when anyone will know anything. The fact that the Chiefs could theoretically play once in the next 23 days and not play a playoff game yet OR play 4 times in the next 24 days and clinch a super bowl birth is ridiculous. We have no idea which situation is more plausible because no one knows anything. This is a billion dollar industry that probably thought they could find a magical solution to make everyone happy but when they found out they couldn't, they have chosen to just stay silent on the matter. It's wild you have teams playing their last game of the year not knowing what the stakes are.

I'm a supervisor at my job, I have 6 people that report to me. If I were to drop dead today, they would know immediately what to do there'd be a plan. I work 100% remote, if the VPN I log into shut down or like there was a regional internet shutdown, there's a plan. How the hell the NFL has no contingency for a game not being completed is beyond me. The NFL took days to figure out what to do if a blizzard hit one of the snowiest cities in the country. Remember the Chiefs Rams game in Mexico city and how long it took to figure out what to do if the field conditions were too bad to play on? It's insane how much shit the NFL just wings lol

smithandrew051 · 01-05-2023, 08:56 AM

Someone has probably made this point, but I’ll reiterate anyway.

Just because WE don’t know the plan, that doesn’t mean that the NFL doesn’t have a plan in place. It’s very possible the League and teams already know what’s going to happen and it just hasn’t been made public.

They might have already had all of the conversations and made all of the decisions that we want them to make. They just haven’t told us.

I assume that they’re waiting to release any information until Friday afternoon, so the news will move on once the Saturday games start.

TwistedChief · 01-05-2023, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by SithCeNtZ

The teams themselves yes want to win, but individual player choices can absolutely be impacted. Take Lamar and the Ravens. If they get a bye week next week they might just decide the game isn't worth it and let him get another week or two rest. Or maybe you roll the dice and play him twice in 9 days. I bet there are lots of choices that could hang in the balance of a random bye week being added to the schedule. To say this doesn't impact any strategy because the teams generally want to win is simply not correct.

I think that's absolutely ideal. Every team is similarly in the dark whether the playoffs will begin the following weekend as per normal or not. That seems entirely fair and exactly as the NFL - who wants competitive games - would want it, no?

01-03-2023, 08:15 AM
cmh6476 Keep Camp Home! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Joe MO Casino cash: $-883723	Bills/ Bengals [cancelled - process in OP] In case anyone needs it spelled out, we would play at a neutral site if the AFCCG ends up being Chiefs vs. Bills. All other scenarios abide by the usual rules (so any other game the Chiefs play will be at home). Old posts: Spoiler! The NFL will consider a neutral site for the AFC Championship Game. Full details: pic.twitter.com/oi3fItUWIj — Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 6, 2023 Breaking News: Of course the game is secondary to #DamarHamlin’s health, but #Bills insider @viccarucci just reported on @wgrz Daybreak that NFL commissioner Roger Goodell will make the call on rescheduling the Bills/Bengals game and it would have to be played within 2 days. — Melissa Holmes (@2MelissaHolmes) January 3, 2023 There is another option according to @viccarucci - the league can add a 19th week so the Bills/Bengals can get in all their games. @wgrz https://t.co/1X1hCHVN8c — Melissa Holmes (@2MelissaHolmes) January 3, 2023 I assume we'll hear something soon After speaking with both teams and NFLPA leadership, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell informed the clubs today that the Bills-Bengals game will not be resumed this week. The NFL has made no decision regarding the possible resumption of the game at a later date. — Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) January 3, 2023 Last edited by DaFace; 01-09-2023 at 02:14 PM..
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