If fully healthy, this could be the greatest offense we've ever watched

[JustDíqLix]

Originally Posted by siberian khatru

Chiefs ended up being average defensively, and a supernova offensively. Feels right. https://t.co/4c7MLF4vs5

— Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) January 9, 2023

Interestingly enough, I looked at this same chart for the last 2 years and this red box seems to be the “Super Bowl” zone of the last couple years. Admittedly not perfect (I haphazardly drew the boxes on my phone) but interesting that the champs have come from this upper right quadrant.

2022 - this season



2021 - Rams Super Bowl champion




2020 - Bucs Super Bowl champion

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix

Interestingly enough, I looked at this same chart for the last 2 years and this red box seems to be the “Super Bowl” zone of the last couple years.

2022 - this season



2021 - Rams Super Bowl champion




2020 - Bucs Super Bowl champion

That's such an incredibly small sample size that you can't come really come to any conclusion from it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

That's such an incredibly small sample size that you can't come really come to any conclusion from it.

When you scale the graph correctly you can conclude that the 2021 Rams were essentially the 2022 Jags.

Bills fans - good at dildos, bat at graphs.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix

scaling the image doesn’t really matter, because the 2021 epa scale is different (but that’s all I could find for 2021) - Probably better to look at the actual decimal places

Yeah - so you should go ahead and give that a try then.

Hint: that extra zero AFTER the decimal in 2021 is pretty important.

[JustDíqLix]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah - so you should go ahead and give that a try then.

Hint: that extra zero AFTER the decimal in 2021 is pretty important.

Again, that doesn’t really matter, because it’s relative for all teams.

You could make it 3,000,000 instead of .03 and as long as the same change is made relative for all teams the graph would still hold. The place on the map is really all that matters in that it shows good defense with good offense … good offense with bad defense …. bad defense with bad offense… etc.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix

Again, that doesn’t really matter, because it’s relative for all teams.

You could make it 3,000,000 instead of .03 and as long as the same change is made relative for all teams the graph would still hold. The place on the map is really all that matters in that it shows good defense with good offense … good offense with bad defense …. bad defense with bad offense… etc.

It does matter because relative to the league the chiefs don't have a 'good' offense - they have a great one.

And last time that was the case, Josh had himself a little tantrum before he went home for the season.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix

Again, that doesn’t really matter, because it’s relative for all teams.

You could make it 3,000,000 instead of .03 and as long as the same change is made relative for all teams the graph would still hold. The place on the map is really all that matters in that it shows good defense with good offense … good offense with bad defense …. bad defense with bad offense… etc.

If you're heading back to your super dense, repeat the same wrongness several times so people continue arguing with you - ways.... then we'll go back to our ban you from every thread except the overhyped thread ways.

The tiers have been explained several times, and you ignored it back then... and the graph is read top left/bottom right along the diagonals... the Chiefs are so far right of their diagonal, they're almost in a tier by themselves.

Offense is more predictable than defense, so it's skewed that way for a reason. The Chiefs are the best team on that graph because their offense in tenths of a point is far better than .05 in defense.

It's not an opinion, it's how the ****ing graph works. FFS, it's in bold red in the title of the thread. Tiers, not quadrants. If you of all people had found some magic square box, I'd think the people who created DVOA would notice and adjust as well.

[JustDíqLix]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

That's such an incredibly small sample size that you can't come really come to any conclusion from it.

agreed

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by JustDiqLix

agreed

Conclusion: the last time a league average defense was a standard deviation better than second place in the league on offense, it piss pounded the Bills in the playoff in its way to a conference championship.

[scho63]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

That's such an incredibly small sample size that you can't come really come to any conclusion from it.

Stealing quotes from your girlfriend?