Let's talk about the Jaguars (AFC Divisional Round)

[Bearcat]

Discuss.

[JagsFan]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

You'll know your quarterback has officially made the big time when you're no longer rationalizing dropped passes to make him look better, but fielding questions about dropped interceptions as people are trying to tear him down.

You don't think Rodgers defenders would be justified in pointing out that they led the league in dropped passes?

[JagsFan]

Am I not allowed to thumbs-up a post?

By the way, just wanted to say thanks for having me here. Nice forum and nice group of guys it seems.

[FringeNC]

Just rewatched the earlier game. The Chiefs offense is just too much. Toney and McKinnon were weapons that day, and there is no reason to think they won't be again. Throw in Kelce and JuJu as the possession receivers...Unless some how the Jax D line plays dramatically better and rapes our OT, how are they going to stop us?

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by JagsFan

Yeah I agree that Trevor isn't elite. Mahomes and Burrow are elite for sure. After that I guess Allen might be elite, then, ranking the non-elite, Herbert maybe a few guys then Trevor.

But using his first every playoff half to downplay Trevor's quality is pretty unfair. Can he not be forgiven for having playoff jitters?

I think most of us have forgiven him his "first playoff game" jitters, to be honest about it. it doesn't change the fact that those were some really bad decisions.

Plus, we saw him in week 10 or whenever that was as well. And while he didn't actually throw an INT in that game, some of his decisions were . . . questionable.

Will he grow out of that sort of thing is the million-dollar question. Fortunately, for him he has Doug Pederson to help him with that as he goes forward, so i do expect Trevor to have less of those moments as his career progresses.

I think the point here is that Trevor is definitely not a finished product, yet. As such, he's going to make some mistakes/questionable decisions, because that's currently a significant part of who he is. He's not Alex Smith; he's not going to consistently take the checkdown/most conservative pass. He's going to try and make a play. It's the when and where that will be the problem.

[Rainbarrel]

Light snow game, about 1" during game so far in forcast

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

Just rewatched the earlier game. The Chiefs offense is just too much. Toney and McKinnon were weapons that day, and there is no reason to think they won't be again. Throw in Kelce and JuJu as the possession receivers...Unless some how the Jax D line plays dramatically better and rapes our OT, how are they going to stop us?

Yeah, it doeesn't look good for JAX, when you re-examine the last game vs. the Chiefs. The only time they were remotely effective was when they played man against us, and JuJu went out early in that game, plus it was Toney's first game as a Chief and he only had maybe 15 snaps, only a handful of targets.

In zone, it was ridiculously easy for the Chiefs to move the ball. Almost everyone was open, consistently. The fumble and the INT took 10 or so points off the board to make it look a lot closer than it really was.

TBH, I think the only real chance JAX has, is if Pat just has one of those inexplicable horrific days. It could happen, it's really rare, but it could.

But if Mahomes comes out and plays just his average "I'm one of the best QBs in the world," kind of game (as opposed to the "I'm a God" kind of game), it's hard to believe that KC won't score 35+ points.

Then what does JAX do? They only average 24/gm; it's not very realistic to think they'll just explode for 40 points just because they're "battle tested," or they're "playing with house money," or whatever slogan every opposing team's fans have used since 2019.

And all season, with just a handful of exceptions, Spags defense has only allowed the opposing team right about their average in yards and scoring. Even with all the new faces and the three rookies in the secondary.

AGS, blahblahblah, but I wouldn't bet on it this weekend.

[irafreak]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

I think most of us have forgiven him his "first playoff game" jitters, to be honest about it. it doesn't change the fact that those were some really bad decisions.

Plus, we saw him in week 10 or whenever that was as well. And while he didn't actually throw an INT in that game, some of his decisions were . . . questionable.

Will he grow out of that sort of thing is the million-dollar question. Fortunately, for him he has Doug Pederson to help him with that as he goes forward, so i do expect Trevor to have less of those moments as his career progresses.

I think the point here is that Trevor is definitely not a finished product, yet. As such, he's going to make some mistakes/questionable decisions, because that's currently a significant part of who he is. He's not Alex Smith; he's not going to consistently take the checkdown/most conservative pass. He's going to try and make a play. It's the when and where that will be the problem.

We take for granted qb development because all We've known is awesome mahomes. Before that just crappy retreads and busts. Lawrence will improve. He may end up in the top tier after few years of seasoning with a good coach.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by JagsFan

You don't think Rodgers defenders would be justified in pointing out that they led the league in dropped passes?

More to the point that once a QB has won conference championships/Super Bowls, MVPs, and so forth, you don't have to defend them. By the time Mahomes had won a SB, we could all just laugh at the few detractors left.

Originally Posted by JagsFan

Am I not allowed to thumbs-up a post?

By the way, just wanted to say thanks for having me here. Nice forum and nice group of guys it seems.

Hmm, don't think there's anything special about the thumbs... are you seeing them on every single post (and not just the posts where someone has thumb-upped/downed)?

And welcome! This place can be rough around the edges, but we tend to meet people where they're at.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by irafreak

We take for granted qb development because all We've known is awesome mahomes. Before that just crappy retreads and busts. Lawrence will improve. He may end up in the top tier after few years of seasoning with a good coach.

Personally, I'm pulling for him to improve. When JAX hired Pederson, I was certain Trevor would put a much better performance on tape. And I think he really has.

Imho, he could be a top-10 QB next season, partially due to attrition, but I think he could break into that tier. Certainly somewhere between 10 and 15th is almost a given in 2023, unless there's some flaw in his game that gets exposed.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

Is Jacksonville the only AFC opponent the Chiefs never faced in the playoffs?

As far as I can tell

[Megatron96]

Jt OSullivan QB School on Trevor's performance vs. LAC. he gets into the decision-making issues at the beginning of the game:

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by JagsFan

You don't think Rodgers defenders would be justified in pointing out that they led the league in dropped passes?

Our QB was the MVP and is #7 on that list...

[Cdnjagfan14]

Oh I can't wait to come back to this board sat night. It's going to be fireworks going on, on how the chiefs lost to a bottom feeder jags team.

Wether your team Lawrence or not he's here to stay and going to take the king down.

DUUVVAALL

[FlaChief58]

Originally Posted by Cdnjagfan14

Oh I can't wait to come back to this board sat night. It's going to be fireworks going on, on how the chiefs lost to a bottom feeder jags team.

Wether your team Lawrence or not he's here to stay and going to take the king down.

DUUVVAALL

You're no different than any of the other troll fans that come here. After the j-ville pussy cats get shit stomped on Saturday, you'll disappear like a fart in the wind

[Halfcan]

I will be at Arrowhead yelling for my Chiefs! Can't wait! We are going to kick their asses up and down the field.