***Official 2022-2023 NBA Thread***

[dirk digler]

Can't believe the regular season starts tonight. Just seemed like the Finals ended a couple weeks ago.



Philly vs Celtics: 6:30PM CST TNT

GSW vs Lakers: 9:00PM CST TNT

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You're completely delusional.

I don't even make the titles argument. I rarely if ever bring that up. In fact, I only really brought it up recently to point out how desperate you and Barry are for more titles, because you simultaneously try to pretend they don't matter at all.

You expose yourself in this regard in your actions, not necessarily your arguments.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You expose yourself in this regard in your actions, not necessarily your arguments.

The irony.

[tyecopeland]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I don't need to find stats to disparage Curry. He does that himself by missing every big shot he's ever taken.

Ahem.

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You expose yourself in this regard in your actions, not necessarily your arguments.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by tyecopeland

Ahem.

Except I actually acknowledge that I hate the Warriors and how overrated Curry has become. Never haven't.

[lewdog]

Just for the record.

It's #1 Jordan and #2 Lebron. I don't see how anyone can argue those two aren't the best of all-time. No one else makes the top 2 for any reason.

[Rams Fan]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Just for the record.

It's #1 Jordan and #2 Lebron. I don't see how anyone can argue those two aren't the best of all-time. No one else makes the top 2 for any reason.

I could easily argue Wilt or Kareem if I wanted to.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Just for the record.

It's #1 Jordan and #2 Lebron. I don't see how anyone can argue those two aren't the best of all-time. No one else makes the top 2 for any reason.

You are correct except for the order.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by Rams Fan

I could easily argue Wilt or Kareem if I wanted to.

No way, dream on.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

You are correct except for the order.

So your arguments are titles don't matter? Jordan didn't have loaded rosters by any means but seemed to elevate so many role players around him to win.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Just for the record.

It's #1 Jordan and #2 Lebron. I don't see how anyone can argue those two aren't the best of all-time. No one else makes the top 2 for any reason.

For some reason there are a bunch of Kobetards around the internet that manage to find their way to CP. And yes, ARROW is the worst of them, but there are others, too.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Actually, Jordan is much more comparable to Mahomes and Brady to Lebron.

Anybody with a clue that has simply watched Jordan and Mahomes should know that they're witnessing the GOAT. I don't care about the stats, or the titles, they're just supporting arguments. It's all about the eye ball test.

Don’t try convincing them that bc everything I see is that Mahomes can never be Brady even if he wins 10 championships and Brady beating him twice in the playoffs is apparently more evidence of Mahomes inferiority.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by lewdog

So your arguments are titles don't matter? Jordan didn't have loaded rosters by any means but seemed to elevate so many role players around him to win.

Of course they don't matter. They're a team accomplishment. If LeBron played in MJ's era on that Bulls 72 win team instead of against the KD Warriors with Kevin Love as his #2, he would have won 10 of them.

[KC_Connection]

Like, are you seriously gonna argue Mahomes isn't better than Brady at the end of his career because he ends up winning a few less SBs? It's a ridiculously poor argument.

[staylor26]

First off, basketball and football aren't even remotely comparable in that aspect. It's apples to organges. Way more factors in football with all the different guys that play during a game. Even QBs, with their impact, only play offense.

But saying that titles don't matter at all is even dumber than saying they're all that matters.

I don't think Brady's the GOAT when it's all said and done with Mahomes, but I'm also not going to pretend that his championships don't matter.

That is EXACTLY why I say you're the other side of that coin.

You have to pretend that championships are irrelevant to the discussion, which is an awfully convenient (and moronic) position for a Lebron Stan.

It's like me trying to say that longevity doesn't matter at all. It's absurd. It's all part of the equation.

And deep down, you know this, hence why you are so desperate for Lebron to win more, even as the 2nd option. It's exactly why you hate the Warriors and Curry so much. You aren't fooling anybody. That's the irony of you claiming "you expose yourself in regards to your actions..."

Arguing with you about this is absolutely futile, because you're 100% bad faith.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by staylor26

First off, basketball and football aren't even remotely comparable in that aspect. It's apples to organges. Way more factors in football with all the different guys that play during a game. Even QBs, with their impact, only play offense.

But saying that titles don't matter at all is even dumber than saying they're all that matters.

I don't think Brady's the GOAT when it's all said and done with Mahomes, but I'm also not going to pretend that his championships don't matter.

That is EXACTLY why I say you're the other side of that coin.

I didn't say Brady's titles don't matter. What I would say is that they are reflection of how good his teams were and not how good he was.

Same goes for anybody's titles. They are a team award.