Brett Veach hopes Chris Jones can play next week; increased talks last 2 days

[RunKC]

For the mega thread hating crew

#Chiefs GM Brett Veach says he's hopeful that DT Chris Jones will play in their season opener vs. the Lions, which is just eight days away.

Veach mentioned that there has been increased communication on an extension over the past two days. pic.twitter.com/MpLGt0mYhz

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) August 30, 2023

[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by O.city

I do think CP has underrated Jones in an effort to minimize this whole deal.

Dude's an elite player.

But this is the way shit goes sometimes.

It’s simple, he asking for more than he’s worth, and the team is correct in not caving.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

It’s going to start to impact the quality of entertainment, the league is going to be forced to put and end to hold outs.

They're already fining them alot of cash.

What's the alternative here?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

It’s simple, he asking for more than he’s worth, and the team is correct in not caving.

They're clearly close enough that the Chiefs probably agree more with Jones on his worth than they do with CP. Which isn't surprising, but these things get wonky.

[GoForIt]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

It’s going to start to impact the quality of entertainment, the league is going to be forced to put and end to hold outs.

It will always be a players right to hold out. There is zero the league can do as Jones is costing himself money by holding out.

[O.city]

Players know the tv money is about to explode. They're using the leverage they have. It makes people uncomfortable, that's the point of it.

[GoForIt]

Originally Posted by O.city

Players know the tv money is about to explode. They're using the leverage they have. It makes people uncomfortable, that's the point of it.

The gambling money is bigger ...

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by MIAdragon

It’s going to start to impact the quality of entertainment, the league is going to be forced to put and end to hold outs.

The league has already ripped away most of the tools a player has in his bag via holdout.

The non-waivable fines for guys off their rookie deals.

Franchise tag rules, franchise tag value being affected by player salary.

The way a contract year is treated if a player doesn't report in time.

Giving the team discretion on when it activates and when it begins paying a player who didn't report within five days of cutdown day.

Letting a team subtract a player on the Did Not Report list from the player's salary cap.

The only other thing I can think of that the league could do to swing it more in the court of the teams would be to not count a franchise tagged player's salary towards the salary cap until the player signs the tag.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Raiderhater

Teams were hampering themselves with large QB contracts before Mahomes came on the scene.

I love mahomes’ contract. I don’t think that’s the roadblock. The problem was that we had a few years with an unprecedented amount of superstar QBs “playing for free.” So teams were throwing way too much cash at position players.

This offseason you’re seeing way more restraint. And not a coincidence it’s a year where guys like Herbert, hurts and hell even guys like Daniel jones now have to get paid. It’s why guys like DHop stayed on the market for a million years. It’s why every rb is holding out. Teams are resetting the market because QBs are taking up way more payroll. Chris jones’ agent is playing by old rules. If he was on the market a year or 2 ago, maybe, but this year he’d be harder pressed to find anyone who’d give him Aaron Donald money. Because Donald was paid at a very different time from a team who was desperate to win ASAP.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

That one I don't really get.

What are the 9ers gonna do, not sign the guy?

Yeah, the number is high. He's on a HOF all time edge start to his career. It is what it is.

They also have alot big money players except at QB. But if Purdy continues to excel he will want to be paid.

Christian McCaffrey’s backloaded money kicks in next year. $28M cap hit through 2025.

Deebo Samuel’s hit is $28.5M.

George Kittle: $48M through 2025.

Trent Williams has 4/$120M remaining. Arik Armstead, 2/$50M.

Warner, Hargrave, and Ward have big deals.

Can SF pay Nick Bosa?

— Dave Kluge (@DaveKluge) September 5, 2023

[O.city]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

The league has already ripped away most of the tools a player has in his bag via holdout.

The non-waivable fines for guys off their rookie deals.

Franchise tag rules, franchise tag value being affected by player salary.

The way a contract year is treated if a player doesn't report in time.

Giving the team discretion on when it activates and when it begins paying a player who didn't report within five days of cutdown day.

Letting a team subtract a player on the Did Not Report list from the player's salary cap.

The only other thing I can think of that the league could do to swing it more in the court of the teams would be to not count a franchise tagged player's salary towards the salary cap until the player signs the tag.

If these dudes are willing to give up cash like they apparently are, I don't know what else the league can do.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

They also have alot big money players except at QB. But if Purdy continues to excel he will want to be paid.

Christian McCaffrey’s backloaded money kicks in next year. $28M cap hit through 2025.

Deebo Samuel’s hit is $28.5M.

George Kittle: $48M through 2025.

Trent Williams has 4/$120M remaining. Arik Armstead, 2/$50M.

Warner, Hargrave, and Ward have big deals.

Can SF pay Nick Bosa?

— Dave Kluge (@DaveKluge) September 5, 2023

I think some of those drop off in a year or two, but yeah, they're not exactly frugal.

I would imagine they'd jettison Kittle or whoever to keep Bosa.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Doesn't sound hopeful Bosa is going to sign either.

Yup, it’s not just us. Mike evans, saquon, every rb on the planet. Hell, it’s shocking burrow and tee haven’t held out except that I think they know they’re desperate to win now.

[O.city]

The Panthers had multiple first round picks on the table for Brian Burns, didn't trade him, now haven't signed him.

I don't understand that one.

[tredadda]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

I'm sorry you're sad that Andy Reid has lost more post season games he was favored to win than any other coach in Nfl history. I'm sorry you're sad when anyone brings up the amount of hardware Andy Reid should have if he were as great as the revisionists make him out to be.

10 title games. 2 rings. Grab a tissue. Cry it out. Andy without Patrick Mahomes never got it done. Philly couldn't wait to get rid of him and a good portion of this board never wanted him, so act as if Andy was some legend before 15 all you like. The facts show otherwise.

As for your bet, again, there's no point. I average less than 1 post per day over a 19 year membership. I read much, much more than I post.

And as I said, why would I rob myself of a month of your hilarious posts? People need a good laugh. You shoukd actually post more.

I've already called my shot here. 5 tds and 2fgs, 41-20 or 38-20 if Butker shanks one.

I think that covers your spread that you value so much, and should certainly count as a win in Megatron's book requiring double digit margins to qualify as actual wins.

Fir someone so confident we will win, using phrases like dramatic win, and "if we can manage to pull it out" suggests you think otherwise.

This isn't gonna be a game, TwistedPanties. It's gonna be a message. First to Chris Jones and his reeruned agent, and then the rest of the league.

We're back, we're better, and we don't need Chris Jones to roll over whoever is put in front of us.

He still has 10 Conference Championship appearances, half of which were with McNabb as his QB. What HC's without an elite QB are more accomplished than him? Andy is Top 5 in all time wins and will pass Landry this this year and he is #2 in all time playoff wins.

So again what HC without an elite QB is better or more accomplished than him? You have this weird hatred for Andy and it's really sad to see. This team is beyond blessed to have him and I would bet almost any team in this league would love to have him as their HC.

[FloridaMan88]

Originally Posted by O.city

Players know the tv money is about to explode. They're using the leverage they have. It makes people uncomfortable, that's the point of it.

Defensive tackles who are at or approaching 30 have diminishing leverage.

Just because more $$$ will be available, doesn't mean teams are going to change their calculus on who to pay that big $$$ to... RB's, older DT's, etc.